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> You basically just need a metal tube, and well... a pipe from home depot does that much better than trying to 3d print something much less reliable. Why woul
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> You basically just need a metal tube, and well... a pipe from home depot does that much better than trying to 3d print something much less reliable.
Why would you buy a pipe at Home Depot? A gun barrel is not a firearm, and is not required to be registered or serialized. You can drive to Arizona or Nevada and buy an actual barrel, with rifling, manufactured to meet well-known specifications, without showing an ID. Until this year, you could have a barrel shipped to your California residence without an ID. There's no need to build the Shinzo Abe contraption.
> So my assumption is immediately that some relatively large lobbying group feels threatened by 3d printing, and is using this as a driver to try to control access and limit business impact.
Occam's razor. This isn't a shadowy manufacturing cabal, threatened by 3D printing. Gun control lobbyists are trying to prevent the printing of handgun frames and Glock switches, because they're the easiest parts to print.
> Either way, this is bad legislation.
California legislators haven't met a bad gun law that they don't like.
- nickff 6mo agoThe device the parent is describing has a long history, and they're known as 'zip guns'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_firearm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_firearm
- echelon_musk 6mo agoFrom Carlito's Way: > Out come the zip guns. Homemade gun. You pull the hook back, catch that bullet square, ping. Hit you in the head, man, you got serious problems.
- engineer_22 6mo agoYes and the response is telling you that you can build something orders of magnitude more sophisticated without any trouble. The point is, the firearm is not the tube the projectile comes out of. Firearm is closely defined and not intuitive to the general public.
- robot-wrangler 6mo agoQuite a page. Featuring the work of ted k and a toy pop-gun that's un-toyed
- iwontberude 6mo agoLike everything in the United States, it’s actually gun manufacturers that want to clamp down on this cottage industry which threatens their profits. I don’t buy for a second that this is some gun control attempt.
- abtinf 6mo agoThis is the most likely answer. Just as it was the large grocery chains that have funded all the plastic/paper bag bans. The gun lobby has a long history of trying to ban low cost market entrants.
- pfannkuchen 6mo agoIs this not like a schizo conspiracy theory? Like why would the grocery chains fund the bag bans? So they can save a tiny amount of money on paying for bags? But having to bring your own bags limits how much you can buy. If someone has a plan to just use their own bags, they will likely forgo purchases at a higher rate than if the bag is not in the equation for them. It's not obvious to me that the buying limit effect sales decrease would not outweigh the savings on physical bag purchases. Maybe I'm not following?
- abtinf 6mo agoThe grocery chain campaign is well documented. Just search for it. The short answer is that bags are a non-trivial cost for the larger chains. Now, they get to charge for them at an astounding markup and no longer have to compete with any grocery store on this point. All grocery stores are affected equally, which means it is disproportionately damaging to mom-and-pop stores and smaller chains.
- Loudergood 6mo agoHow is this damaging to them at all? They literally get to cut one item completely off their expense list.
- kevin_thibedeau 6mo agoFor the adventurous, there may be a desire for all-plastic construction. Print a cylinder in high-temp filament, wrap it in CF tow, ream to size.
- robot-wrangler 6mo agoI'd guess the bring-back-DRM lobbyists are all automotive interests, whether it's OEM or the existing after-market people. Replacing mirror housings and stuff even for cheap cars has got to be one of the highest margin businesses out there, and lux cars? Insane
- parineum 6mo ago> California legislators haven't met a bad gun law that they don't like. California and New York have been done more for gun rights than anyone else by passing absurd laws that get struck down by the judiciary, setting precedent.
- hyperhopper 6mo agoTell that to the milllions of people in states like this that have spent most/all their life having their rights infringed upon.
- parineum 6mo agoI'm one of them. However, due to the adversarial nature of the judiciary system, opposition is required to set precedent. It'd be great if the overstepping didn't ever happen but we don't know what is overstepping until SCOTUS rules. California and New York have played a pivotal role in defining the edges of the second amendment.
- hnburnsy 6mo agoNope, it is the democrats led by Michael Bloomberg... https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gun-safety-advocates-warn-surge-134401900.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gun-safety-advocates-war...
- raptor99 6mo agoDo you even realize what you just said? Oh hey why even go to a nearby Home Depot when you can drive over to an entirely different state instead. Really?
- jmspring 6mo agoCalifornia now requires some parts of- like shotgun barrels to go through an ffl.
- someguynamedq 6mo ago> Occam's razor. This isn't a shadowy manufacturing cabal, threatened by 3D printing. Gun control lobbyists are trying to prevent the printing of handgun frames and Glock switches, because they're the easiest parts to print. Probably more accurate to say politicians are trying to take actions which will be seen publicly as fighting against gun crime. It seems like a stretch to say anyone earnestly believes that 3D printed guns are a real problem in the landscape of existing gun crime in America
- cybercatgurrl 6mo agoyep, it’s all about manufactured consent and optics