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From the perspective of a Canadian, this feels like an absolutely mad-cap crazy comment. What did you live through? EDIT: with as little judgement as I'm since

by patcon 6mo ago

From the perspective of a Canadian, this feels like an absolutely mad-cap crazy comment. What did you live through? EDIT: with as little judgement as I'm sincerely trying to have, I would strongly recommend reviewing your information diet and neurotypical predispositions to investigate why you might believe this. (E.g. I am predisposed to support an underdog, and need to gutcheck myself on that regularly)

quantummagic 6mo ago
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- ceejayoz 6mo ago
  Sure. Just like Hitler offing himself; just an expression of trust in the system! "Oh no, I lost in the marketplace of ideas, time to make the ultimate concession!"
  - quantummagic 6mo ago
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    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      Good news! https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-law-trump-hitler-00132427 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-la... > I’ve never said that just because you’re invoking the Nazis you’re losing the argument. If you’re going to compare somebody to Hitler or the Nazis or raise the specter of the Holocaust, be sure you’ve got your facts right. But there’s nothing categorically wrong with Biden’s — or anyone else’s — comparison of Trump calling people vermin or talking about blood poisoning to Hitler. Trump went because House/Senate Republicans at the time hadn't yet done the 180 they have since; the support wasn't there. It has nothing to do with his faith in the democratic process.
      - quantummagic 6mo ago
        > Trump went because... But in the end he went. The system worked exactly like it was supposed to. There is room to challenge results, that keeps the system honest. When he lost the challenges, he willingly stepped down. This is exactly how the system is designed to work. I understand the visceral hatred of Trump, but I don't know why every conversation about him has to degrade the same way this one has, with people using emotional-manipulation like evoking Hitler.
        ceejayoz 6mo ago
        > But in the end he went. Sure. Again, so did Hitler. He went because the alternative was being dragged out by the FBI and Secret Service like a toddler having a tantrum. > I don't know why every conversation about him has to degrade the same way this one has Maybe if your self-described information diet included a little news and electoral coverage you wouldn't be so flat-footed by it.
        cosmicgadget 6mo ago
        He tried for a redo of the Brooks Brothers Riot in the US Capitol. He demanded the Georgia governor change their result. He recruited a slate of fake electors. In no world was his transition of power lawful and orderly.
        patcon 6mo ago
        Yeah, Trump is not normal, not playing normal politics. He's the worst form of opportunist. Like yesterday, does anyone actually think he thought he was posting a meme about being a doctor? No, he was faith testing whether he could LARP as Jesus, and he couldn't. He's the fucking worst form of liar, as he even deceives himself. He's a mentally sick man, and a society that excuses his behavior is sick as well.
- cosmicgadget 6mo ago
  "Your honor I am only accused of attempted murder."

by patcon 6mo ago

quantummagic 6mo ago

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ceejayoz 6mo ago
Sure. Just like Hitler offing himself; just an expression of trust in the system! "Oh no, I lost in the marketplace of ideas, time to make the ultimate concession!"
- quantummagic 6mo ago
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  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    Good news! https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-law-trump-hitler-00132427 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/19/godwins-la... > I’ve never said that just because you’re invoking the Nazis you’re losing the argument. If you’re going to compare somebody to Hitler or the Nazis or raise the specter of the Holocaust, be sure you’ve got your facts right. But there’s nothing categorically wrong with Biden’s — or anyone else’s — comparison of Trump calling people vermin or talking about blood poisoning to Hitler. Trump went because House/Senate Republicans at the time hadn't yet done the 180 they have since; the support wasn't there. It has nothing to do with his faith in the democratic process.
    - quantummagic 6mo ago
      > Trump went because... But in the end he went. The system worked exactly like it was supposed to. There is room to challenge results, that keeps the system honest. When he lost the challenges, he willingly stepped down. This is exactly how the system is designed to work. I understand the visceral hatred of Trump, but I don't know why every conversation about him has to degrade the same way this one has, with people using emotional-manipulation like evoking Hitler.
      - ceejayoz 6mo ago
        > But in the end he went. Sure. Again, so did Hitler. He went because the alternative was being dragged out by the FBI and Secret Service like a toddler having a tantrum. > I don't know why every conversation about him has to degrade the same way this one has Maybe if your self-described information diet included a little news and electoral coverage you wouldn't be so flat-footed by it.
      - cosmicgadget 6mo ago
        He tried for a redo of the Brooks Brothers Riot in the US Capitol. He demanded the Georgia governor change their result. He recruited a slate of fake electors. In no world was his transition of power lawful and orderly.
      - patcon 6mo ago
        Yeah, Trump is not normal, not playing normal politics. He's the worst form of opportunist. Like yesterday, does anyone actually think he thought he was posting a meme about being a doctor? No, he was faith testing whether he could LARP as Jesus, and he couldn't. He's the fucking worst form of liar, as he even deceives himself. He's a mentally sick man, and a society that excuses his behavior is sick as well.
cosmicgadget 6mo ago
"Your honor I am only accused of attempted murder."