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Welcome back to Europe, Hungary.
by lysace 6mo ago
Welcome back to Europe, Hungary.
- jacquesm 6mo agoTime will tell. Keep in mind that his successor was part of Orban's party in the past.
- flopsamjetsam 6mo agoI don't know much about him, only that he was in the same party. I have heard that he is pro-EU and anti-Russia though, is that true?
- orwin 6mo agoYes, he basically have the same views, except on Russia. One advantage though is that Orban put his people at the head of Hungary corporations, so maybe that will end and the corruption will be kept at "normal" levels.
- jacquesm 6mo agoPro-EU: probably. Anti-Russia: also probably. For both: I prefer to see it all rather than to assume it will be fine. Oh, and we still have Fico to deal with. But at least Hungarians have chosen against Orban that in itself gives some hope. Those leaked phone calls that were made public in the last weeks were very damning, I always assumed that such stuff was going on but to have hard proof is on another level. I wonder what they're going to do with the participants. And what Orban's plans are now that he's in the opposition. I would not count him out just yet, he's got Putin's backing and you can bet they'll work overtime to try to destabilize Magyar's government. The rot goes pretty deep and it will take a lot of work to undo all that damage.
- tpm 6mo agoOrban is only 63; it's up to him what he will do but there is a certain type of people that could live happily on their own island with all the money they have stolen but they prefer to do evil to their last day. See for example Babis, delegating the ownership of his huge company to a trust fund so he can be a prime minister again at 70. Or indeed our great leader Fico who is in politics like Orban since '89, was prime minister around 15 years of the last 20, probably stolen billions for himself, was shot, nearly killed, and doesn't look like he wants to give up his power anytime soon.. and he's still only 62.
- jacquesm 6mo agoWith Orban much reduced in power Fico's days are numbered. But Orban will hang around, if only to do more of Putin's bidding, it's up to Magyar & the new government now to deal with Orban and his spies in a way that they won't be able to do a come-back.
- tpm 6mo agoNot really, Fico has survived a lot during his 4 decades in politics and was always able to adapt (to our detriment). His political survival does not depend on Orban, even though they were close the last couple of years.
- dbdr 6mo ago"Russians go home" was one of the main chants at opposition rallies. In 2026 like in 1989.
- dbdr 6mo agoAnd in 1956 of course.
- lysace 6mo agoFrom your perspective as afaik nowadays a Californian progressive: Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
- jacquesm 6mo agoYes, that's true. But there is enough about Magyar that I don't understand that I'm cautiously optimistic. Though it would be hard to imagine worse than Orban... JD Vance strikes again. I wonder how long it will take US politicians and assorted billionaires to realize that their 'endorsements' will backfire.
- cjbenedikt 6mo ago"...will take US politicians and assorted billionaires to realize that their 'endorsements' will backfire..." They may have to switch off their AI and start using their own brain - should they still have one, that is.
- salawat 6mo agoShhhh. Don't correct your enemy while they are busy making mistakes. Just smile and wave.
- mandeepj 6mo agoThey all start from the same root whether Trump (once a democrat), BJP (part of congress, oldest political party in India)