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I'm a Font Awesome subscriber and yes, for the record, they spam me with annoying marketing and probably deserve their Gmail woes. They also use that silly dar

by 0x3f 6mo ago

I'm a Font Awesome subscriber and yes, for the record, they spam me with annoying marketing and probably deserve their Gmail woes. They also use that silly dark pattern where they alternate sending out marketing emails from {David,Harry,Sam,Janet,every other person at the company}@fontawesome.com.

hirako2000 6mo ago
Wouldn't be a fringe. I get most marketing emails with a name as if a person sent it. Catchy subject seemingly target to me. Same for content. But you are right, it's more likely enough users marked them as spam that Google algorithm decided the source is the spam.
- 0x3f 6mo ago
  Oh the 'real name' thing I see all the time, often just using the founder's name, but only the more growth-hacky companies seem to purposely cycle through the names of their other employees for sending marketing content.
- bxbb 6mo ago
  > Identify each subscription list by including a human-readable identifier in each message 'List-ID:' header or use a unique 'From:' address to send messages for different subscriptions. This means each mailing list used to send subscription messages should have its own unique 'From:' address. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15263077 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15263077 Constantly receiving email from one alias is fine since it signals a subscription-like communications. Recycling through different aliases for the same recepient is surefire way to get flagged. If you want to "personalize" the email, just add the name of the marketer in the subject or footer.
Brybry 6mo ago
Do they have an easy-to-unsubscribe link in the marketing spam (cannot include logging into the user's account)? I have a generic name gmail account and people with my name frequently accidentally use my email address when signing up for stuff. When I get unsolicited mail which doesn't include a simple unsubscribe link then I just report as spam instead.
- 0x3f 6mo ago
  Each email has an unsubscribe link, but my problem is that I don't know if these separate senders represent different email lists. In the past, some companies who've used this pattern have accepted my unsubscribe request on one list, but kept emailing me from another, as if I'm supposed to work out their marketing email list hierarchy in order to stop them spamming me. So these days I don't bother, I just select all and mark as spam when I see it.
  - IshKebab 6mo ago
    Oh you want to unsubscribe? Sure, we've unsubscribed you from "Summer special 2025 marketing list", bye!
- itopaloglu83 6mo ago
  I think most of them are spamming you and you’re being nice to attribute to mistakes. Also, a lot of companies nowadays keep adding weird email topics that you need to constantly unsubscribe from. If I signed up and turned off all subscriptions, then anything they send is marked as spam immediately. The lack of cost in sending email makes it easy for them to keep abusing all the time.
  - ryandrake 6mo ago
    I basically give companies 0 strikes anymore, and assume the "unsubscribe" link is at best, a dark pattern that only unsubscribes me from that 1 out of their 100 "channels," and at worst, confirms my E-mail address. "Report Spam" immediately.
    - RHSeeger 6mo ago
      I unsubscribe twice (allowing for one possible bug), then spam. And, as others have noted, unsubscribe cannot involving going and logging into their system. If I need to do that, it generally goes directly to spam.
      - 6mo ago
arein3 6mo ago
Yeah I hate spam so much, hope everyone here reports them as spam to give them a lesson to not pretend to be the good guys when they are spammers. Hey fontawesome and any other company that sends bullshit spam, nobody cares about whatever thing you want to spam, you're just poisoning the well for others.

by 0x3f 6mo ago

hirako2000 6mo ago

Wouldn't be a fringe. I get most marketing emails with a name as if a person sent it. Catchy subject seemingly target to me. Same for content. But you are right, it's more likely enough users marked them as spam that Google algorithm decided the source is the spam.

0x3f 6mo ago
Oh the 'real name' thing I see all the time, often just using the founder's name, but only the more growth-hacky companies seem to purposely cycle through the names of their other employees for sending marketing content.
bxbb 6mo ago
> Identify each subscription list by including a human-readable identifier in each message 'List-ID:' header or use a unique 'From:' address to send messages for different subscriptions. This means each mailing list used to send subscription messages should have its own unique 'From:' address. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15263077 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15263077 Constantly receiving email from one alias is fine since it signals a subscription-like communications. Recycling through different aliases for the same recepient is surefire way to get flagged. If you want to "personalize" the email, just add the name of the marketer in the subject or footer.

Brybry 6mo ago

Do they have an easy-to-unsubscribe link in the marketing spam (cannot include logging into the user's account)? I have a generic name gmail account and people with my name frequently accidentally use my email address when signing up for stuff. When I get unsolicited mail which doesn't include a simple unsubscribe link then I just report as spam instead.

0x3f 6mo ago
Each email has an unsubscribe link, but my problem is that I don't know if these separate senders represent different email lists. In the past, some companies who've used this pattern have accepted my unsubscribe request on one list, but kept emailing me from another, as if I'm supposed to work out their marketing email list hierarchy in order to stop them spamming me. So these days I don't bother, I just select all and mark as spam when I see it.
- IshKebab 6mo ago
  Oh you want to unsubscribe? Sure, we've unsubscribed you from "Summer special 2025 marketing list", bye!
itopaloglu83 6mo ago
I think most of them are spamming you and you’re being nice to attribute to mistakes. Also, a lot of companies nowadays keep adding weird email topics that you need to constantly unsubscribe from. If I signed up and turned off all subscriptions, then anything they send is marked as spam immediately. The lack of cost in sending email makes it easy for them to keep abusing all the time.
- ryandrake 6mo ago
  I basically give companies 0 strikes anymore, and assume the "unsubscribe" link is at best, a dark pattern that only unsubscribes me from that 1 out of their 100 "channels," and at worst, confirms my E-mail address. "Report Spam" immediately.
  - RHSeeger 6mo ago
    I unsubscribe twice (allowing for one possible bug), then spam. And, as others have noted, unsubscribe cannot involving going and logging into their system. If I need to do that, it generally goes directly to spam.
    - 6mo ago

arein3 6mo ago

Yeah I hate spam so much, hope everyone here reports them as spam to give them a lesson to not pretend to be the good guys when they are spammers. Hey fontawesome and any other company that sends bullshit spam, nobody cares about whatever thing you want to spam, you're just poisoning the well for others.