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As a long time ruby enjoyer and now also rust enjoyer, the core syntax and systems of rust are very rubyesque in a lot of ways, you can tell that some of the co

As a long time ruby enjoyer and now also rust enjoyer, the core syntax and systems of rust are very rubyesque in a lot of ways, you can tell that some of the core contributors liked the language.

nextaccountic 7mo ago
yeah ruby API ideas and the _why poignant guide specifically, they were very influential in programming in general. a number of early rust devs came from ruby as well. all original authors of cargo worked on ruby's bundler earlier. etc
IshKebab 7mo ago
Really? What do you think comes from Ruby? Rust mostly seems to be inspired by ML and C++. Actually I just checked the "official" list and they only list the closure syntax which seems pretty minor: https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/influences.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/influences.html
- leafario2 7mo ago
  Expression orientation
  - IshKebab 7mo ago
    That's from functional programming.
    - saghm 7mo ago
      I don't think anyone claimed that Ruby and Rust were the only two languages with those features, just that they're something they both have in common.
      - IshKebab 7mo ago
        The claim is that Rust took espression-orientation from Ruby. That's unlikely - it is much more inspired by FP languages which are also expression oriented.
        saghm 7mo ago
        Ah, you're right, I definitely misread that the first time. I think the only thing that Rust probably was directly inspired by Ruby on was the syntax for closures (which is not exactly the same, but when the closure uses a block rather than returning an expression directly it's similar, and I vaguely recall seeing something about that being intentional).
- jaggederest 7mo ago
  Iterator style, chaining, traits, blocks all feel very rubyesque, and expression syntax as well, plus the cargo toolchain is very bundler-informed.
- littlestymaar 7mo ago
  A significant portion of the prominent community members come from Ruby so I guess there must be something …

As a long time ruby enjoyer and now also rust enjoyer, the core syntax and systems of rust are very rubyesque in a lot of ways, you can tell that some of the core contributors liked the language.

nextaccountic 7mo ago

yeah ruby API ideas and the _why poignant guide specifically, they were very influential in programming in general. a number of early rust devs came from ruby as well. all original authors of cargo worked on ruby's bundler earlier. etc

IshKebab 7mo ago

Really? What do you think comes from Ruby? Rust mostly seems to be inspired by ML and C++. Actually I just checked the "official" list and they only list the closure syntax which seems pretty minor: https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/influences.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/influences.html

leafario2 7mo ago
Expression orientation
- IshKebab 7mo ago
  That's from functional programming.
  - saghm 7mo ago
    I don't think anyone claimed that Ruby and Rust were the only two languages with those features, just that they're something they both have in common.
    - IshKebab 7mo ago
      The claim is that Rust took espression-orientation from Ruby. That's unlikely - it is much more inspired by FP languages which are also expression oriented.
      - saghm 7mo ago
        Ah, you're right, I definitely misread that the first time. I think the only thing that Rust probably was directly inspired by Ruby on was the syntax for closures (which is not exactly the same, but when the closure uses a block rather than returning an expression directly it's similar, and I vaguely recall seeing something about that being intentional).
jaggederest 7mo ago
Iterator style, chaining, traits, blocks all feel very rubyesque, and expression syntax as well, plus the cargo toolchain is very bundler-informed.
littlestymaar 7mo ago
A significant portion of the prominent community members come from Ruby so I guess there must be something …