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by LunaSea 6mo ago

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mixtureoftakes 6mo ago
unpopular opinion but i think it's written quite well
- kspacewalk2 6mo ago
  Perhaps by ChatGPT
  - 0x3f 6mo ago
    It seems a bit stilted to be LLM'd.
- kcatskcolbdi 6mo ago
  Yes, clearly not written with his own product.
  - pesus 6mo ago
    If that's the case, why doesn't he trust his own product enough to write this?
    - alpaca128 6mo ago
      He doesn't trust it for anything else either as far as I can tell. In an interview he's boasted about how he uses a paper notebook for everything all day.
- ryan_n 6mo ago
  I don't think that's unpopular, it is pretty well written. But the "I believe" section is extraordinarily hard to believe given Altman's history. > Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people > We have to get safety right > AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated None of these statements, IMO, reflect his actions over the past 5 years. > we urgently need a society-wide response to be resilient to new threats. This includes things like new policy to help navigate through a difficult economic transition in order to get to a much better future I agree with this, but there is a near 0% chance of that happening anytime soon in the US. I think he probably is aware of this. Just my opinion, but it comes off as very insincere. To be clear, what happened is still awful and there's absolutely no justification for it.
- daseiner1 6mo ago
  it's "written well" but not at all a smart piece of writing. leading with a photo of a cute baby before engaging in an extended defense of one's own integrity is so obvious as to be insulting
SOLAR_FIELDS 6mo ago
Ha, I was giving an AI bootcamp to a room full of people and someone asked me my opinion of Altman. I hesitated for a second and replied that I would not trust Altman further than I could throw a rock about anything. If Graham says this guy will always stop at nothing to get whatever he wants, which I absolutely believe, then why would you trust anything that comes out of a person like that’s mouth?
- dakolli 6mo ago
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  - moralestapia 6mo ago
    Who tf is dumb enough to not do it, though? If I was non-tech and owned a business, and someone (reputable) offers to teach me everything I need to get up to date with the most revolutionary technology of the decade (perhaps century?) for like ... 500 dollars? Why not?
    - dakolli 6mo ago
      Its neural network autocomplete that helps you write text a little faster, chill with "the most revolutionary technology of the last decade/century" talk. You're offending a lot of experts in way more important areas of research.
      - moralestapia 6mo ago
        >write text a little faster You might actually need to attend an AI bootcamp. This is not 2022's GPT, AI can deliver plenty of value for a business owner these days.
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      - xvector 6mo ago
probably_wrong 6mo ago
10 hours ago a post made the frontpage here [0] about how OpenAI is backing a law that "would limit liability for AI-enabled mass deaths or financial disasters". Now he's here saying he believes that "working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people, and advancing science and technology are moral obligations for [him]". I know he doesn't believe a word of what he wrote in that post except, perhaps, that he cannot sleep and is pissed. I know I should be used to people openly lying with no consequence, but it still amazes me a bit. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587
- SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
  I think it's good for CEOs of powerful companies to make statements about how they don't want too much personal power and it's important to ensure everyone does well, even and perhaps especially if there's reason to suspect they don't believe it. Saying it doesn't solve the problem, but it helps create a permission structure for the rest of us to get it to actually happen.
  - tyre 6mo ago
    The reason he's saying that is because he doesn't want you to create that structure. He wants you to not create the laws or checks & balances on him because you "trust that he doesn't really want the power". It has worked for him, repeatedly.
    - SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
      No, I don't think that's accurate. Altman has repeatedly and loudly demanded for these to be created, including a new detailed policy proposal just this month (https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/561e7512-253e-424b-9734-ef4098440601/Industrial%20Policy%20for%20the%20Intelligence%20Age.pdf https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/561e7512-253e-424b-9734-ef4098440...).
      - tyre 6mo ago
        OpenAI has also repeatedly and quietly lobbied against them. You linked a vague PDF whose promised actions are: > To help sustain momentum, OpenAI is: (1) welcoming and organizing feedback through newindustrialpolicy@openai.com; (2) establishing a pilot program of fellowships and focused research grants of up to $100,000 and up to $1 million in API credits for work that builds on these and related policy ideas; and (3) convening discussions at our new OpenAI Workshop opening in May in Washington, DC. Welcoming and organizing feedback! A pilot! Convening discussions! This "commitment" pales in comparison to the money they've spent lobbying against specific regulation that cedes power. Please don't fall for this stuff.
hart_russell 6mo ago
He’s clearly a standard pathological lying C suite exec

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by LunaSea 6mo ago

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mixtureoftakes 6mo ago

unpopular opinion but i think it's written quite well

kspacewalk2 6mo ago
Perhaps by ChatGPT
- 0x3f 6mo ago
  It seems a bit stilted to be LLM'd.
kcatskcolbdi 6mo ago
Yes, clearly not written with his own product.
- pesus 6mo ago
  If that's the case, why doesn't he trust his own product enough to write this?
  - alpaca128 6mo ago
    He doesn't trust it for anything else either as far as I can tell. In an interview he's boasted about how he uses a paper notebook for everything all day.
ryan_n 6mo ago
I don't think that's unpopular, it is pretty well written. But the "I believe" section is extraordinarily hard to believe given Altman's history. > Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people > We have to get safety right > AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated None of these statements, IMO, reflect his actions over the past 5 years. > we urgently need a society-wide response to be resilient to new threats. This includes things like new policy to help navigate through a difficult economic transition in order to get to a much better future I agree with this, but there is a near 0% chance of that happening anytime soon in the US. I think he probably is aware of this. Just my opinion, but it comes off as very insincere. To be clear, what happened is still awful and there's absolutely no justification for it.
daseiner1 6mo ago
it's "written well" but not at all a smart piece of writing. leading with a photo of a cute baby before engaging in an extended defense of one's own integrity is so obvious as to be insulting

SOLAR_FIELDS 6mo ago

Ha, I was giving an AI bootcamp to a room full of people and someone asked me my opinion of Altman. I hesitated for a second and replied that I would not trust Altman further than I could throw a rock about anything. If Graham says this guy will always stop at nothing to get whatever he wants, which I absolutely believe, then why would you trust anything that comes out of a person like that’s mouth?

dakolli 6mo ago
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- moralestapia 6mo ago
  Who tf is dumb enough to not do it, though? If I was non-tech and owned a business, and someone (reputable) offers to teach me everything I need to get up to date with the most revolutionary technology of the decade (perhaps century?) for like ... 500 dollars? Why not?
  - dakolli 6mo ago
    Its neural network autocomplete that helps you write text a little faster, chill with "the most revolutionary technology of the last decade/century" talk. You're offending a lot of experts in way more important areas of research.
    - moralestapia 6mo ago
      >write text a little faster You might actually need to attend an AI bootcamp. This is not 2022's GPT, AI can deliver plenty of value for a business owner these days.
      - deleted 6mo ago
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    - xvector 6mo ago

probably_wrong 6mo ago

10 hours ago a post made the frontpage here [0] about how OpenAI is backing a law that "would limit liability for AI-enabled mass deaths or financial disasters". Now he's here saying he believes that "working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people, and advancing science and technology are moral obligations for [him]". I know he doesn't believe a word of what he wrote in that post except, perhaps, that he cannot sleep and is pissed. I know I should be used to people openly lying with no consequence, but it still amazes me a bit. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587

SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
I think it's good for CEOs of powerful companies to make statements about how they don't want too much personal power and it's important to ensure everyone does well, even and perhaps especially if there's reason to suspect they don't believe it. Saying it doesn't solve the problem, but it helps create a permission structure for the rest of us to get it to actually happen.
- tyre 6mo ago
  The reason he's saying that is because he doesn't want you to create that structure. He wants you to not create the laws or checks & balances on him because you "trust that he doesn't really want the power". It has worked for him, repeatedly.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
    No, I don't think that's accurate. Altman has repeatedly and loudly demanded for these to be created, including a new detailed policy proposal just this month (https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/561e7512-253e-424b-9734-ef4098440601/Industrial%20Policy%20for%20the%20Intelligence%20Age.pdf https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/561e7512-253e-424b-9734-ef4098440...).
    - tyre 6mo ago
      OpenAI has also repeatedly and quietly lobbied against them. You linked a vague PDF whose promised actions are: > To help sustain momentum, OpenAI is: (1) welcoming and organizing feedback through newindustrialpolicy@openai.com; (2) establishing a pilot program of fellowships and focused research grants of up to $100,000 and up to $1 million in API credits for work that builds on these and related policy ideas; and (3) convening discussions at our new OpenAI Workshop opening in May in Washington, DC. Welcoming and organizing feedback! A pilot! Convening discussions! This "commitment" pales in comparison to the money they've spent lobbying against specific regulation that cedes power. Please don't fall for this stuff.

hart_russell 6mo ago

He’s clearly a standard pathological lying C suite exec