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> We can't overcome the force of game theory Game theory isn't a force. It's just one way of modeling behavior through one sense of rationality, and it rarely

> We can't overcome the force of game theory Game theory isn't a force. It's just one way of modeling behavior through one sense of rationality, and it rarely maps neatly onto actual human behavior.

delichon 7mo ago
It may be easier to think of evolution as the force, and game theory strongly influencing the fitness test. Those who play the games of mating and predator/prey more optimally reproduce more. We descend from billions of generations of the winners.
- XorNot 7mo ago
  We don't descend from winners, we descend from whoever survived and it's not an individual competition. If the only place a particularly beneficial mutation appears is wiped out by chance volcanic eruption, that's just how it is - the survivors who weren't near the volcano go on to reproduce.
  - delichon 7mo ago
    In evolution the winners are the ones who survive to reproduce, and that includes 100% of our ancestors.
    - XorNot 7mo ago
      The cultural ramifications of choosing one word over another are significant though. "Winner" is a loaded term. > In evolution the survivors reproduced, and that includes 100% of our ancestors.
      - delichon 7mo ago
        The context is game theory. Games have winners and losers.
- throwaway27448 7mo ago
  > and game theory strongly influencing the fitness test Does it? I don't think reproduction is very influenced by game theory.
  - delichon 7mo ago
    Biologist John Maynard Smith disagreed. Here he is talking about evolutionary game theory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKegQW_lsGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKegQW_lsGI