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In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

by UI_at_80x24 6mo ago

handfuloflight 6mo ago
"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."
- lucianbr 6mo ago
  People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of error of it.
  - handfuloflight 6mo ago
    I am quite acquainted with Carlin. If there's anyone that can have their absurd logic repeated back to them, it would be a comedian. And That Right Soon.
  - ceejayoz 6mo ago
    > People forget Carlin was a comedian. That would seem to include you?
    - lucianbr 6mo ago
      How do you figure? I don't have a problem with Carlin, but with people who quote him as a source of wisdom. The commenter who quoted him here in the thread meant to make a joke and I didn't get it? I thought he quoted him as a point against the law we are discussing.
      - ceejayoz 6mo ago
        You're semantically quibbling with a clear joke and using those quibbles to avoid engaging with the point it's making.
        lucianbr 6mo ago
        > "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal." I don't get it. The literal interpretation is a clear joke, as you say. So what's the point that it is making? To be clear, I think the law discussed is stupid. I also think the argument that if both parts are legal they should also be legal together is wrong. What am I avoiding?
        ceejayoz 6mo ago
        I'm referring to the two other jokes you quoted.
        lucianbr 6mo ago
        What was I avoiding with those?
- Chance-Device 6mo ago
  Or, to be true to the original:“Driving is legal, and drinking is legal; but driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal.” Maybe it’s just not street legal but you could do it on a race track?
  - st_goliath 6mo ago
    > driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal Not sure, probably isn't street legal. But for the curious, it has been done before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fqpp-IAXF0&t=25s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fqpp-IAXF0&t=25s
- burnte 6mo ago
  One kills people the other makes people, they're not the same.
  - handfuloflight 6mo ago
    You know what really makes people? Polygamy. And I want my f*king human rights, now! Just like President Jimmi Carta says.
Jiro 6mo ago
A politician voting for a bill is legal. Giving money to a politician is legal. But giving money to a politician so he'll vote for a bill is not legal.
- johnea 6mo ago
  What are you talking about? This is how laws are passed in the US 8-/ The private money delivering entity often writes the bill! Which the politician often doesn't even read, just sends to the house from committee for vote...
gjsman-1000 6mo ago
Moving your finger is legal, holding and aiming a gun is legal, pulling your finger to fire a gun is sometimes not legal. Framing the gun debate as a restriction on finger movement would also not be productive.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

handfuloflight 6mo ago

"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."

lucianbr 6mo ago
People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of error of it.
- handfuloflight 6mo ago
  I am quite acquainted with Carlin. If there's anyone that can have their absurd logic repeated back to them, it would be a comedian. And That Right Soon.
- ceejayoz 6mo ago
  > People forget Carlin was a comedian. That would seem to include you?
  - lucianbr 6mo ago
    How do you figure? I don't have a problem with Carlin, but with people who quote him as a source of wisdom. The commenter who quoted him here in the thread meant to make a joke and I didn't get it? I thought he quoted him as a point against the law we are discussing.
    - ceejayoz 6mo ago
      You're semantically quibbling with a clear joke and using those quibbles to avoid engaging with the point it's making.
      - lucianbr 6mo ago
        > "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal." I don't get it. The literal interpretation is a clear joke, as you say. So what's the point that it is making? To be clear, I think the law discussed is stupid. I also think the argument that if both parts are legal they should also be legal together is wrong. What am I avoiding?
        ceejayoz 6mo ago
        I'm referring to the two other jokes you quoted.
        lucianbr 6mo ago
        What was I avoiding with those?
Chance-Device 6mo ago
Or, to be true to the original:“Driving is legal, and drinking is legal; but driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal.” Maybe it’s just not street legal but you could do it on a race track?
- st_goliath 6mo ago
  > driving an alcoholic beverage is not legal Not sure, probably isn't street legal. But for the curious, it has been done before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fqpp-IAXF0&t=25s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fqpp-IAXF0&t=25s
burnte 6mo ago
One kills people the other makes people, they're not the same.
- handfuloflight 6mo ago
  You know what really makes people? Polygamy. And I want my f*king human rights, now! Just like President Jimmi Carta says.

Jiro 6mo ago

A politician voting for a bill is legal. Giving money to a politician is legal. But giving money to a politician so he'll vote for a bill is not legal.

johnea 6mo ago
What are you talking about? This is how laws are passed in the US 8-/ The private money delivering entity often writes the bill! Which the politician often doesn't even read, just sends to the house from committee for vote...

gjsman-1000 6mo ago

Moving your finger is legal, holding and aiming a gun is legal, pulling your finger to fire a gun is sometimes not legal. Framing the gun debate as a restriction on finger movement would also not be productive.