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People are not complaining because the information is available people are complaining because it’s way easier now to just download an app ask a bunch of quest

People are not complaining because the information is available people are complaining because it’s way easier now to just download an app ask a bunch of questions in a text box and get a bunch of answers that you personally could not have done unless you had an excessive amount of energy and motivation I personally think all this is great and I’m excited for all information to become trivially available Are they gonna be a bunch of people who accidentally break stuff? probably. evolution is a bitch

prepend 7mo ago
How much easier is it to ask an app than to ask google?
- wqes2 7mo ago
  He’s part of the accelerationist crowd - interesting to see that his hype fuelled posts are pretty tame now. Months ago he was blabbering on about AGI and peddling the marketing Sam et al want people to fall for. And indeed - yes we have a new interface? So what. The search cost wasn’t that high - the cost with immense magnitude is reading, absorbing the information and then acting on it. Also this bozo fails to realise once we are on this path, we go down the path to a hyper centralised internet with an inevitable blocking of vpns.
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  - AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
    I must really have captured somebody’s attention because I got farms now creating accounts just to respond to me which is fucking crazy but hey here we are
- SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago
  Much easier, not sure how this is even a question. Asking Google (if you're not just reading its own AI overview) requires reading through sources which may be better or more poorly written and more or less reliable. Those of us recreationally sitting here on a text-based platform with links to dense articles are atypical; most people don't enjoy and aren't particularly good at reading a bunch of stuff. If you ask AI you just get a clear, concrete answer.
- AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
  Well it would appear a lot easier given how people are reacting right now As the OP indicated all of this information has always been accessible if you had the energy to go hunt it down
WesolyKubeczek 7mo ago
> people are complaining because it’s way easier now to just download an app ask a bunch of questions in a text box and get a bunch of answers that you personally could not have done unless you had an excessive amount of energy and motivation Wait, I'm confused. This is gatekeeping, right? I thought gatekeeping was a Bad Thing!
- SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago
  Powerful AI models change the dynamics by greatly reducing the amount of effort that's required to perform complex understanding. A lot of information which did not previously need to be gatekept now needs to be if we cannot somehow keep LLMs from discussing it. (State of the art models still can't do complex understanding reliably, but if 10 times as many people are now capable of attempting some terrible thing, you're still in trouble if AI hallucinations catch 1/4 or 1/2 of them.)
- AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
  It’s like anything else once people realize something is powerful they have to try to put it in a box the people who’ve been working on AGI for the last 30 years, including guys like me, have been talking about this problem since basically forever I’ll give credit that at least the AI Box problem was interesting thought experiment for newbies Reap what “yew” sew
raincole 7mo ago
In other words, people are complaining that information is easily available. That's a lot words to express this simple idea.
- AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
  Correct

prepend 7mo ago

How much easier is it to ask an app than to ask google?

wqes2 7mo ago
He’s part of the accelerationist crowd - interesting to see that his hype fuelled posts are pretty tame now. Months ago he was blabbering on about AGI and peddling the marketing Sam et al want people to fall for. And indeed - yes we have a new interface? So what. The search cost wasn’t that high - the cost with immense magnitude is reading, absorbing the information and then acting on it. Also this bozo fails to realise once we are on this path, we go down the path to a hyper centralised internet with an inevitable blocking of vpns.
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- AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
  I must really have captured somebody’s attention because I got farms now creating accounts just to respond to me which is fucking crazy but hey here we are
SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago
Much easier, not sure how this is even a question. Asking Google (if you're not just reading its own AI overview) requires reading through sources which may be better or more poorly written and more or less reliable. Those of us recreationally sitting here on a text-based platform with links to dense articles are atypical; most people don't enjoy and aren't particularly good at reading a bunch of stuff. If you ask AI you just get a clear, concrete answer.
AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
Well it would appear a lot easier given how people are reacting right now As the OP indicated all of this information has always been accessible if you had the energy to go hunt it down

WesolyKubeczek 7mo ago

> people are complaining because it’s way easier now to just download an app ask a bunch of questions in a text box and get a bunch of answers that you personally could not have done unless you had an excessive amount of energy and motivation Wait, I'm confused. This is gatekeeping, right? I thought gatekeeping was a Bad Thing!

SpicyLemonZest 7mo ago
Powerful AI models change the dynamics by greatly reducing the amount of effort that's required to perform complex understanding. A lot of information which did not previously need to be gatekept now needs to be if we cannot somehow keep LLMs from discussing it. (State of the art models still can't do complex understanding reliably, but if 10 times as many people are now capable of attempting some terrible thing, you're still in trouble if AI hallucinations catch 1/4 or 1/2 of them.)
AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
It’s like anything else once people realize something is powerful they have to try to put it in a box the people who’ve been working on AGI for the last 30 years, including guys like me, have been talking about this problem since basically forever I’ll give credit that at least the AI Box problem was interesting thought experiment for newbies Reap what “yew” sew

raincole 7mo ago

In other words, people are complaining that information is easily available. That's a lot words to express this simple idea.

AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
Correct