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EFF still does. MAGA is the one who decided ideas like freedom of expression, an expectation of privacy, and holding governments accountable were woke liberal

by tailscaler2026 6mo ago

EFF still does. MAGA is the one who decided ideas like freedom of expression, an expectation of privacy, and holding governments accountable were woke liberal concepts.

833 6mo ago
That is incredible rewriting of history.
- CursedSilicon 6mo ago
  How? He's "investigating" CNN right now for...something? Something about them reporting on the Iran war
- saulapremium 6mo ago
  No, that is the obvious and clear truth. MAGA has done a pretty good job at making the opposite appear true, though.
thaumasiotes 6mo ago
True as stated, but if you generalize the statement to "enemy concepts", who decided that? For example, where did the term "freeze peach" come from?
ETH_start 6mo ago
Blue Sky heavily censors its platform
- theshrike79 6mo ago
  [citation needed] No citation needed for Twitter censorship, just badmouth Elmo and you'll see what happens to your reach.
  - nilespotter 6mo ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SnAJOluk1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SnAJOluk1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC64XJl2mXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC64XJl2mXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhTVHeQK10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhTVHeQK10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRF80IWYX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRF80IWYX8
    - tovej 6mo ago
      Youtube videos are not reliable sources.
    - theshrike79 6mo ago
      So people specifically get there to be as big of an ass as they can be and then get all pikachu.jpg when they get banned? It's a private platform, not a public utility. They can choose their customers.
      - ETH_start 6mo ago
        The point of these videos is that no platform that values freedom of expression and diverse points of view would have auto-ban systems for the kinds of things that he said. X is massively more liberal in what it allows and what it tolerates before it will ban someone than Blue Sky. So the EFF's claims are totally disingenuous and I don't think people should stand for it no matter where they stand politically.
- datsci_est_2015 6mo ago
  Blue Sky has like 3 dozen employees or something nuts like that. They have no time to perform censoring at the scale other platforms do.
ecshafer 6mo ago
Massie, a republican, and Rand Paul, another republican, are by far the most supportive of free speech politicans in congress.
- root_axis 6mo ago
  By what metric?
  - IG_Semmelweiss 6mo ago
    The freedom index is a good start. https://freedomindex.us/us/ https://freedomindex.us/us/ Massie has 99% And Paul was at 96 % in the 117th congress https://freedomindex.us/us/legislators/session/11/sort/sd/ https://freedomindex.us/us/legislators/session/11/sort/sd/
    - cwal37 6mo ago
      Maybe a good start if you're a specific flavor of person, but it would be pretty amazing to claim it's an objective observer of "freedom" when the Freedom Index is a John Birch Society project, which is an ultraconservative advocacy group. Just because it's called the freedom index, doesn't mean it's concerned with the freedom of all man, look to the civil rights movement for easy examples of how JBS' "freedom" is only for certain people. Hell, click over to the JBS website and you'll see Alex Jones and Steve Bannon front and center on their home page. It's crazy to refer to one of their projects as some neutral arbiter.
    - bjoli 6mo ago
      Whoa! > We have assigned pluses to the yeas because Congress has every duty to forbid grossly illicit acts of sexual perversion in the armed forces. It is full of things that are not what I would consider freedoms. Freedoms of companies to exploit oil reserves is one. Voting no to taxpayer funded healthcare is a good thing,apparently. Edit: and I didnt look further than 3 clicks away. They are not hiding their political bias very well.
    - fzeroracer 6mo ago
pessimizer 6mo ago
> ideas like freedom of expression, an expectation of privacy, and holding governments accountable This was a bipartisan agreement. Democrats just say "nothingburger" a lot when you talk about it. The EFF is, and has always been, a libertarian org with a narrow focus.

EFF still does. MAGA is the one who decided ideas like freedom of expression, an expectation of privacy, and holding governments accountable were woke liberal concepts.

833 6mo ago

That is incredible rewriting of history.

CursedSilicon 6mo ago
How? He's "investigating" CNN right now for...something? Something about them reporting on the Iran war
saulapremium 6mo ago
No, that is the obvious and clear truth. MAGA has done a pretty good job at making the opposite appear true, though.

thaumasiotes 6mo ago

True as stated, but if you generalize the statement to "enemy concepts", who decided that? For example, where did the term "freeze peach" come from?

ETH_start 6mo ago

Blue Sky heavily censors its platform

theshrike79 6mo ago
[citation needed] No citation needed for Twitter censorship, just badmouth Elmo and you'll see what happens to your reach.
- nilespotter 6mo ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SnAJOluk1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SnAJOluk1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC64XJl2mXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC64XJl2mXg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhTVHeQK10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhTVHeQK10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRF80IWYX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRF80IWYX8
  - tovej 6mo ago
    Youtube videos are not reliable sources.
  - theshrike79 6mo ago
    So people specifically get there to be as big of an ass as they can be and then get all pikachu.jpg when they get banned? It's a private platform, not a public utility. They can choose their customers.
    - ETH_start 6mo ago
      The point of these videos is that no platform that values freedom of expression and diverse points of view would have auto-ban systems for the kinds of things that he said. X is massively more liberal in what it allows and what it tolerates before it will ban someone than Blue Sky. So the EFF's claims are totally disingenuous and I don't think people should stand for it no matter where they stand politically.
datsci_est_2015 6mo ago
Blue Sky has like 3 dozen employees or something nuts like that. They have no time to perform censoring at the scale other platforms do.

ecshafer 6mo ago

Massie, a republican, and Rand Paul, another republican, are by far the most supportive of free speech politicans in congress.

root_axis 6mo ago
By what metric?
- IG_Semmelweiss 6mo ago
  The freedom index is a good start. https://freedomindex.us/us/ https://freedomindex.us/us/ Massie has 99% And Paul was at 96 % in the 117th congress https://freedomindex.us/us/legislators/session/11/sort/sd/ https://freedomindex.us/us/legislators/session/11/sort/sd/
  - cwal37 6mo ago
    Maybe a good start if you're a specific flavor of person, but it would be pretty amazing to claim it's an objective observer of "freedom" when the Freedom Index is a John Birch Society project, which is an ultraconservative advocacy group. Just because it's called the freedom index, doesn't mean it's concerned with the freedom of all man, look to the civil rights movement for easy examples of how JBS' "freedom" is only for certain people. Hell, click over to the JBS website and you'll see Alex Jones and Steve Bannon front and center on their home page. It's crazy to refer to one of their projects as some neutral arbiter.
  - bjoli 6mo ago
    Whoa! > We have assigned pluses to the yeas because Congress has every duty to forbid grossly illicit acts of sexual perversion in the armed forces. It is full of things that are not what I would consider freedoms. Freedoms of companies to exploit oil reserves is one. Voting no to taxpayer funded healthcare is a good thing,apparently. Edit: and I didnt look further than 3 clicks away. They are not hiding their political bias very well.
  - fzeroracer 6mo ago

pessimizer 6mo ago

> ideas like freedom of expression, an expectation of privacy, and holding governments accountable This was a bipartisan agreement. Democrats just say "nothingburger" a lot when you talk about it. The EFF is, and has always been, a libertarian org with a narrow focus.