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> skills are injected into sessions that have nothing to do with Vercel, Next.js, or this plugin's scope > every skill's trigger rules get evaluated on every p
by embedding-shape 7mo ago
> skills are injected into sessions that have nothing to do with Vercel, Next.js, or this plugin's scope
> every skill's trigger rules get evaluated on every prompt and every tool call in every repo, regardless of whether Vercel is in scope
> For users working across multiple projects (some Vercel, some not), this is a fixed ~19k token cost on every session — even when the session is pure backend work, data science, or non-Vercel frontend.
I know everything is vibeslopped nowadays, but how does one even end up shipping something like this? Checking if your plugin/extension/mod works in the contexts you want, and doesn't impact the contexts you don't, seem like the very first step in even creating such a thing. "Where did the engineering go?" feels like too complicated even, where did even thinking the smallest amount go?
- acedTrex 7mo ago> Checking if your plugin/extension/mod works What makes you think they do this with any of their products these days?
- throwaway613746 7mo ago[dead]
- potter098 7mo ago[flagged]
- Lihh27 7mo agoa deployment plugin shipping raw bash command strings off your machine. "actively defend against it" is just normal hygiene
- serial_dev 7mo agoWell, unfortunately people always tend to only spend time on verifying that the feature they wanted works, testing the happy path. Even many superficial bosses / code reviewers / QA tester will check this... Checking if your code also gets executed elsewhere a bazillion times, checking failure cases, etc... That's a luxury that you feel you can't afford when you are in "ship fast, break things" mode.
- embedding-shape 7mo ago> That's a luxury that you feel you can't afford when you are in "ship fast, break things" mode. I've been there, countless of times, never have I shipped software I didn't feel at least slightly confident about though. And the only way to get confident about anything, is to try it out. But both of those things must have been lacking here and then I don't understand what the developer was really doing at all during this.
- serial_dev 7mo agoDevs get tunnel vision when they ship slop.
- sandeepkd 7mo agoIt seems market driven, the consumer space rewards speed and publicity more than the quality of software
- hyperhopper 7mo agoYour comment assumes the plugin is not working as they want it to. The way it is designed gets them the maximum amount of data. It does a great job if that is their goal.
- embedding-shape 7mo agoYes, I'm assuming good intentions and try to take a charitable perspective of everything, unless there is any specific evidence pointing to something else. Is there any evidence of this being intentional? Seems to me their engineering practices such, rather than the company suddenly wanting to slurp up as much data as possible, if they truly wanted that, they have about 10 better approaches for it, if they don't care about other things.
- bdangubic 7mo agocan you name one of these 10 better approaches?
- pyb 7mo agoWhy are you still assuming good intentions of Vercel? This was them less yhan a month ago : https://vercel.com/changelog/updates-to-terms-of-service-march-2026 https://vercel.com/changelog/updates-to-terms-of-service-mar...
- Kwpolska 7mo agoWhy would you assume good intentions of any business in this day and age?
- embedding-shape 7mo agoBecause I'm a nice person, and want to give other nice people the benefit of the doubt. And most businesses are run by people after all, not hard to imagine at least some of them would be "nice people" too. And frankly, the alternative would be too mentally taxing. So in the camp of "Good until proven otherwise" is where I remain for now.
- chuckadams 7mo ago> I know everything is vibeslopped nowadays, but how does one even end up shipping something like this? The first part of your question answers the second. No one is left who cares. People are going to have to vote with their feet before that changes.
- nothinkjustai 7mo agoHonestly, knowing some of the people who work for Vercel and the amount of vibe coding they do, I doubt anyone even checked this before pushing.
- p_stuart82 7mo ago19k tokens per session and the skill triggers don't even check project scope. you're paying that overhead on every non-vercel repo
- elAhmo 7mo agoNo worries, they acquired Bun because they seem to be super thoroughly invested in the whole ecosystem and engineering excellence of their tools.
- tracerbulletx 7mo agoEngineers were holding back the ocean because no one could even make sense of what they did, even a little bit, so they had power. Now they just threaten to use AI to do what they want unless you do it for them. The leverage is gone, the dike is burst.