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Before figuring out how to tackle this project, I needed to know whether it would even be possible. According to a 2021 Reddit comment: There is a zero per

Before figuring out how to tackle this project, I needed to know whether it would even be possible. According to a 2021 Reddit comment: There is a zero percent chance of this ever happening. Feeling encouraged, I started with the basics: what hardware is in the Wii, and how does it compare to the hardware used in real Macs from the era. I LOL'd

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nancyminusone 6mo ago
Gotta love that particular Redditors follow up comment: >Go ahead and downvote me. I am correct on every single thing I said
- dpoloncsak 6mo ago
  Tempted to necro a 5 year old reddit post just to tell that guy he was wrong, honestly
  - oceansky 6mo ago
    Comments are blocked there
  - noman-land 6mo ago
    Make a new thread calling them out personally.
    - lossyalgo 6mo ago
      Post a link so we can upvote for visibility :) Nevermind, wasn't hard to find: https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/1sfzacl/porting_mac_os_x_to_the_nintendo_wii/ https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/1sfzacl/porting_mac_os...
  - Jeremy1026 6mo ago
    User hasn't posted in 4 years. Sadly, they'd probably never see it.
  - ErneX 6mo ago
    I wanted to, but no replies are allowed now :)
    - LimeLimestone 6mo ago
      I tried messaging them and it says I'm not allowed to message them. Weird, never had that happen to me
  - zamadatix 6mo ago
    This is why Reddit defaults to archiving posts (preventing new comments or votes) after 6 months.
- dfxm12 6mo ago
  The comment score is 1. It doesn't even have a controversial flag. The gamification of social media is a mistake.
- arcfour 6mo ago
  The best part is the comment ranting about how the Wii's CPU is so fundamentally different, and then: > The Wii uses a PowerPC 750CL processor - an evolution of the PowerPC 750CXe that was used in G3 iBooks and some G3 iMacs. Hilarious.
glenstein 6mo ago
I almost think such projects are worth it just to immortalize comments like these. There's a whole psychology of wrongness that centers on declaring that not-quite-impossible things will definitely never happen, because it feels like principled skepticism.
- blkhp19 6mo ago
  I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a very tiny part of my motivation :)
  - bombcar 6mo ago
    It's a variation of "because it's there" when asked why would you climb some giant mountain. Impressive work! Now run Dolphin on it. ;)
- inlined 6mo ago
  That used to be my thing: wherever our ops manager declared something was impossible, I’d put my mind to proving her wrong. Even though we both knew she might declare something impossible prematurely to motivate me. My favorite was “it’s impossible to know which DB is failing from a stack trace”. I created STAIN (stack traces and instance names): a ruby library that would wrap an object in a viral proxy (all returns from all methods are themselves proxies) that would intercept all exceptions and annotate the call stack with the “stain”ed tag.
  - glenstein 6mo ago
    Well you're doing gods work as far as I'm concerned. Conflating difficulty in practice with impossibility in principle is, to my mind, a source of so much unnecessary cognitive error.
    - xattt 6mo ago
      The declaration of an impossibility of a given task or goal is a reflection of the perceived barrier by the individual, rather than the task itself.
MomsAVoxell 6mo ago
The missile knows at all times where it is, by knowing at all times where it isn’t.
addybojangles 6mo ago
So much has happened in the tech world because someone wrote at one point, "You can't do that" My favorite part of our online world.
bsimpson 6mo ago
> Readers with a keen eye might notice some issues: > - Everything is magenta. was fun too
krylon 6mo ago
I had the same reaction.
wpm 6mo ago
I have a project on my desk that started as a response to a line in the Adafruit docs for their RP2040 based MacroPad It is not possible to add BLE or WiFi at this time to the MacroPad. Oh yeah, really? There is a port hanging off the side that can be reconfigured for UART, are you sure Adafruit, what if I add an ESP32?
bluedino 6mo ago
Wasn't the old Linux joke, don't ask "how do I do X with Linux" (because you'd get ridiculed for not reading the docs) but instead, just state "X isn't possible with Linux" and then someone would show you how it's done?
- gbalduzzi 6mo ago
  Or eventually you could answer wrongly to a question without answers, triggering plenty of correct ones
  - chrisweekly 6mo ago
    yeah, it's an interesting socio-psychological phenomenon
- gxs 6mo ago
  Ha so well known it has a name, Cunningham’s law
ex-aws-dude 6mo ago
HN is not as bad but I think a lot of internet commenters do this because it gives them a little hit of superiority Plus the internet basically equates cynicism with intelligence There is somehow no concept of "ignorant cynicism"
- eska 6mo ago
  Plus the internet basically equates cynicism with intelligence This is a generally known phenomenon in psychology. If you leave a book review saying that you liked a book, people are biased to believe you are stupid. If you criticize a book negatively people are biased to believe you are smart.
talkfold 6mo ago
The "zero percent" guy definitely opened a browser tab to check after the post went live.
0xc133 6mo ago
I’ve never seen someone go to so much effort just to prove a random Redditor wrong, but I am impressed.
xeonax 6mo ago
Its a great motivator, happened with me too, I once asked a question about getting the original camera on custom rom and got this as a response [1]. This lead to 2 year long project [2] and an awesome time full of learnings and collaboration [1] https://xdaforums.com/t/how-do-i-port-pocos-miui-camera-to-custom-rom.3863917/post-78087607 https://xdaforums.com/t/how-do-i-port-pocos-miui-camera-to-c... [2] https://xdaforums.com/t/anxcamera-closed-on-xda-only-16th-feb-2020.3879357/ https://xdaforums.com/t/anxcamera-closed-on-xda-only-16th-fe...
userbinator 6mo ago
Reminds me of the old saying "don't interrupt the one doing it, to tell him it can't be done."
- NetOpWibby 6mo ago
  I love this
jasomill 6mo ago
I thought the same thing about running macOS Ventura on pre-AVX2 Macs until this[1] showed up. [1] https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup
bfirsh 6mo ago
I got the idea of writing an emulator in JavaScript in the pre-Chrome era, circa 2007. I remember searching around trying to find whether somebody had done it before. It seemed not, and somebody on a forum declared “that’s not possible”. To me, it was obviously possible, and I was determined to prove them wrong. Anyway, this now exists because of that: https://github.com/bfirsh/jsnes https://github.com/bfirsh/jsnes

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nancyminusone 6mo ago

Gotta love that particular Redditors follow up comment: >Go ahead and downvote me. I am correct on every single thing I said

dpoloncsak 6mo ago
Tempted to necro a 5 year old reddit post just to tell that guy he was wrong, honestly
- oceansky 6mo ago
  Comments are blocked there
- noman-land 6mo ago
  Make a new thread calling them out personally.
  - lossyalgo 6mo ago
    Post a link so we can upvote for visibility :) Nevermind, wasn't hard to find: https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/1sfzacl/porting_mac_os_x_to_the_nintendo_wii/ https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/1sfzacl/porting_mac_os...
- Jeremy1026 6mo ago
  User hasn't posted in 4 years. Sadly, they'd probably never see it.
- ErneX 6mo ago
  I wanted to, but no replies are allowed now :)
  - LimeLimestone 6mo ago
    I tried messaging them and it says I'm not allowed to message them. Weird, never had that happen to me
- zamadatix 6mo ago
  This is why Reddit defaults to archiving posts (preventing new comments or votes) after 6 months.
dfxm12 6mo ago
The comment score is 1. It doesn't even have a controversial flag. The gamification of social media is a mistake.
arcfour 6mo ago
The best part is the comment ranting about how the Wii's CPU is so fundamentally different, and then: > The Wii uses a PowerPC 750CL processor - an evolution of the PowerPC 750CXe that was used in G3 iBooks and some G3 iMacs. Hilarious.

glenstein 6mo ago

I almost think such projects are worth it just to immortalize comments like these. There's a whole psychology of wrongness that centers on declaring that not-quite-impossible things will definitely never happen, because it feels like principled skepticism.

blkhp19 6mo ago
I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a very tiny part of my motivation :)
- bombcar 6mo ago
  It's a variation of "because it's there" when asked why would you climb some giant mountain. Impressive work! Now run Dolphin on it. ;)
inlined 6mo ago
That used to be my thing: wherever our ops manager declared something was impossible, I’d put my mind to proving her wrong. Even though we both knew she might declare something impossible prematurely to motivate me. My favorite was “it’s impossible to know which DB is failing from a stack trace”. I created STAIN (stack traces and instance names): a ruby library that would wrap an object in a viral proxy (all returns from all methods are themselves proxies) that would intercept all exceptions and annotate the call stack with the “stain”ed tag.
- glenstein 6mo ago
  Well you're doing gods work as far as I'm concerned. Conflating difficulty in practice with impossibility in principle is, to my mind, a source of so much unnecessary cognitive error.
  - xattt 6mo ago
    The declaration of an impossibility of a given task or goal is a reflection of the perceived barrier by the individual, rather than the task itself.

MomsAVoxell 6mo ago

The missile knows at all times where it is, by knowing at all times where it isn’t.

addybojangles 6mo ago

So much has happened in the tech world because someone wrote at one point, "You can't do that" My favorite part of our online world.

bsimpson 6mo ago

> Readers with a keen eye might notice some issues: > - Everything is magenta. was fun too

krylon 6mo ago

I had the same reaction.

wpm 6mo ago

I have a project on my desk that started as a response to a line in the Adafruit docs for their RP2040 based MacroPad It is not possible to add BLE or WiFi at this time to the MacroPad. Oh yeah, really? There is a port hanging off the side that can be reconfigured for UART, are you sure Adafruit, what if I add an ESP32?

bluedino 6mo ago

Wasn't the old Linux joke, don't ask "how do I do X with Linux" (because you'd get ridiculed for not reading the docs) but instead, just state "X isn't possible with Linux" and then someone would show you how it's done?

gbalduzzi 6mo ago
Or eventually you could answer wrongly to a question without answers, triggering plenty of correct ones
- chrisweekly 6mo ago
  yeah, it's an interesting socio-psychological phenomenon
gxs 6mo ago
Ha so well known it has a name, Cunningham’s law

ex-aws-dude 6mo ago

HN is not as bad but I think a lot of internet commenters do this because it gives them a little hit of superiority Plus the internet basically equates cynicism with intelligence There is somehow no concept of "ignorant cynicism"

eska 6mo ago
Plus the internet basically equates cynicism with intelligence This is a generally known phenomenon in psychology. If you leave a book review saying that you liked a book, people are biased to believe you are stupid. If you criticize a book negatively people are biased to believe you are smart.

talkfold 6mo ago

The "zero percent" guy definitely opened a browser tab to check after the post went live.

0xc133 6mo ago

I’ve never seen someone go to so much effort just to prove a random Redditor wrong, but I am impressed.

xeonax 6mo ago

Its a great motivator, happened with me too, I once asked a question about getting the original camera on custom rom and got this as a response [1]. This lead to 2 year long project [2] and an awesome time full of learnings and collaboration [1] https://xdaforums.com/t/how-do-i-port-pocos-miui-camera-to-custom-rom.3863917/post-78087607 https://xdaforums.com/t/how-do-i-port-pocos-miui-camera-to-c... [2] https://xdaforums.com/t/anxcamera-closed-on-xda-only-16th-feb-2020.3879357/ https://xdaforums.com/t/anxcamera-closed-on-xda-only-16th-fe...

userbinator 6mo ago

Reminds me of the old saying "don't interrupt the one doing it, to tell him it can't be done."

NetOpWibby 6mo ago
I love this

jasomill 6mo ago

I thought the same thing about running macOS Ventura on pre-AVX2 Macs until this[1] showed up. [1] https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup

bfirsh 6mo ago

I got the idea of writing an emulator in JavaScript in the pre-Chrome era, circa 2007. I remember searching around trying to find whether somebody had done it before. It seemed not, and somebody on a forum declared “that’s not possible”. To me, it was obviously possible, and I was determined to prove them wrong. Anyway, this now exists because of that: https://github.com/bfirsh/jsnes https://github.com/bfirsh/jsnes