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I'm not signing up for a new contract with a different company to get the same speeds at higher price and IPv6 that is pretty much useless as many major website

I'm not signing up for a new contract with a different company to get the same speeds at higher price and IPv6 that is pretty much useless as many major websites don't even work with it. It will take at least another 15 years before I will consider using IPv6 at home.

saghm 7mo ago
Not only that, but not everyone will even have any other choices. The last apartment I was in literally only had one ISP option; I literally would check every six months or so with other ISPs that were in the area because of the fairly frequent outages, and every time they all said that they couldn't offer me service at my address. (This didn't stop them from filling my mailbox with spam all the time though of course). This was in New York (the city), so it's not like there weren't half a dozen other ISPs operating within a few blocks of me. I can't take seriously the claim that someone would literally refuse to move into an apartment purely on the basis of not having IPv6 support. Bad internet in general? Sure, that's plausible; I work from home, and like I said, the outages were annoying, and if there were no decent speed options my (now) wife and I might have ruled it out? But literally just the lack of IPv6? That's an absurd reason to pick another place to live entirely.
- order-matters 7mo ago
  any idea why no one else could service the building? Ive usually had option of verizon or optimum when ive rented, though my experience has been queens and long island
  - saghm 7mo ago
    Optimum was the one option we had. This was in Brooklyn (Park Slope specifically, so pretty high density). My vague understanding is that Verizon wasn't hooked up to the building, but I have no idea why that would be. I only wish they managed to recognize that when sending out advertisements.
    - order-matters 6mo ago
      Ah okay, i wonder if the dilemma was on verizon side or building owner side if verizon charges to connect the building and couldnt make an agreement with the owner. or maybe owner has non financial reasons (laziness & indifference) for denying them. or maybe some operational reason verzion wasnt confident in ability to install
  - greenavocado 6mo ago
    https://www.allconnect.com/blog/fcc-prohibits-exclusive-agreements-between-providers-and-building-owners https://www.allconnect.com/blog/fcc-prohibits-exclusive-agre...
    - saghm 6mo ago
      If I'm reading correctly, it only prevented new agreements going forward rather than penalizing the old ones, and of course the fact that the FCC's party line split will tilt in favor of the current president at some point every turn means that this might not even be policy anymore (and that's before even taking into account that the current administration doesn't exactly follow precedents around administrative agencies).

saghm 7mo ago

Not only that, but not everyone will even have any other choices. The last apartment I was in literally only had one ISP option; I literally would check every six months or so with other ISPs that were in the area because of the fairly frequent outages, and every time they all said that they couldn't offer me service at my address. (This didn't stop them from filling my mailbox with spam all the time though of course). This was in New York (the city), so it's not like there weren't half a dozen other ISPs operating within a few blocks of me. I can't take seriously the claim that someone would literally refuse to move into an apartment purely on the basis of not having IPv6 support. Bad internet in general? Sure, that's plausible; I work from home, and like I said, the outages were annoying, and if there were no decent speed options my (now) wife and I might have ruled it out? But literally just the lack of IPv6? That's an absurd reason to pick another place to live entirely.

order-matters 7mo ago
any idea why no one else could service the building? Ive usually had option of verizon or optimum when ive rented, though my experience has been queens and long island
- saghm 7mo ago
  Optimum was the one option we had. This was in Brooklyn (Park Slope specifically, so pretty high density). My vague understanding is that Verizon wasn't hooked up to the building, but I have no idea why that would be. I only wish they managed to recognize that when sending out advertisements.
  - order-matters 6mo ago
    Ah okay, i wonder if the dilemma was on verizon side or building owner side if verizon charges to connect the building and couldnt make an agreement with the owner. or maybe owner has non financial reasons (laziness & indifference) for denying them. or maybe some operational reason verzion wasnt confident in ability to install
- greenavocado 6mo ago
  https://www.allconnect.com/blog/fcc-prohibits-exclusive-agreements-between-providers-and-building-owners https://www.allconnect.com/blog/fcc-prohibits-exclusive-agre...
  - saghm 6mo ago
    If I'm reading correctly, it only prevented new agreements going forward rather than penalizing the old ones, and of course the fact that the FCC's party line split will tilt in favor of the current president at some point every turn means that this might not even be policy anymore (and that's before even taking into account that the current administration doesn't exactly follow precedents around administrative agencies).