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People claim this all the time, but every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work and just handwave away as "easy" or "details" the very reas
by bluGill 7mo ago
People claim this all the time, but every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work and just handwave away as "easy" or "details" the very reasons people who understand networks say it can't work.
- isodev 7mo agoI think you’re making my point - someone decided to surface a very low level concept “as is” (without a suitable abstraction) on a level where people also need it for use cases that don’t justify knowledge of the arcane. Or dealing with gatekeepers for that matter.
- bluGill 7mo agoFor most people there is no UX. Most US houses are IPv6 and use it without knowing anything about networking at all (most cable internet is IPv6, as the big cell networks). The people who have to make networks work need to know how IPv6 works - but there is no getting around that - they know how IPv4 works too.
- orangeboats 7mo agoThere are already abstractions that allows you to deal with IPv6 without actually typing in the addresses. It's the DNS, but every time this topic pops up, someone rejects DNS and proceeds to continue sprouting something about how IPv6 is unusable because you can't memorize the addresses.
- wpm 7mo agoWhat happens when DNS is down
- orangeboats 7mo agoWhat happens when DNS is down (IPv4 edition)?
- DaSHacka 7mo agoYou type in the IP that's extremely easy to remember as it's just 4 numbers seperated by periods
- bluGill 7mo agoWithout checking what is the ip for hackernews?
- DaSHacka 7mo agoI'm not a system administrator for YCombinator, so I couldn't tell you, but I assure you I have the IPv4 IPs of all systems I maintain (personal and enterprise) memorized. Not even by choice, mind you, but they naturally cement themselves in my mind over time as I work on systems because they're just that basic. IPv6, on the other hand, I have literally one memorized (::1), likely because it's even shorter than a typical IPv4 address.
- dogleash 7mo ago>every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work Listen here, if there is a networking technology or feature that I wasn't forced learn when I half-assed a SOHO router config in 2005, then it shouldn't exist at all.
- 9rx 7mo ago> but every time I push I discover they have no clue how networks work Obviously. Anyone who does understand how networks work aren't going to spend any time talking about it. People don't talk about things they are certain about. They talk about what they don't know much about to feel out what they're missing. You will never find a discussion where pushing back reveals that you found the world's utmost expert. The world's utmost expert is bored with the subject and has moved on to talking about the things he has gaps in.