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Lots of Americans don't get it yet but what we're living through is the end of what was sometimes called the "post-war international order" that began in 1945.
by f30e3dfed1c9 6mo ago
Lots of Americans don't get it yet but what we're living through is the end of what was sometimes called the "post-war international order" that began in 1945. America's allies in western Europe have been deliberately alienated and our electorate has shown itself to be too volatile, unpredictable, and frankly dumb to elect a trustworthy government.
Intelligence-sharing from countries once, and still sort of nominally, our allies has been curtailed because no one can trust that information shared with us won't make its way to other countries that do not wish them well. That trust will take decades to rebuild if in fact it can be, and by that time, the world will be a very different place.
The current administration is in the grip of religious fanatics with delusional, apocalyptic views of the world, as is much of the political party they come from. Nobody sensible trusts people like that, nor should they. It will take a generation to remove these people from political power, and it's far from clear that a majority of the electorate even wants to.
Meanwhile, the US is gutting the science and education infrastructure that was rightly the envy of the world and making itself hostile to immigrants from nearly the entire world, when being a draw to the best and brightest served it so well for so long. Again, damage being done in a matter of years will take decades to recover from.
It's not time to pack it in but it is time to recognize that America does not now and will in all likelihood never again hold the place in the world it did from 1945 to 2017. The America that most adults alive now grew up in is gone and the one their children and grandchildren will inhabit will likely be much diminished.
Didn't have to happen but that's where we are and we brought it on ourselves.
- lunar-whitey 6mo agoThe U.S. is currently in a similar position to the U.K. in the Suez in 1956 and is sprinting into the position the U.S.S.R. was in Afghanistan in 1979. Americans watching network TV news or reading the New York Times, however, would be hard pressed to distinguish it from Iraq in 2003.
- bulbar 6mo agoI fully agree, it's super obvious and even wanted by a huge share of the US population by voting for "America first". I hope that the EU manages to fill the power vacuum. They are already forming new economic bonds super fast and starting new defense initiatives. It will need a real EU military though. Also a new mode to operate is needed, the pure consensus based mode doesn't work that well.
- KellyCriterion 6mo agoTrump destroyed very much of the softpower procellaine the US had built over the last decades.
- tencentshill 6mo agoI don't believe the electorate is that hateful and stupid. There are a lot, but not enough for Trump to win after his awful first term. My gut says it was interference of some kind. Though Covid did change a lot.
- prewett 6mo agoI think a more reasonable reason is that much of the electorate was tired of woke politics. Unfortunately, Trump is just as bad, but in a more traditional sort of bad. (Fortunately, he is also obviously bad. Unfortunately, being obviously bad means we get things like this war.) I also think that many of the Trump voters were aware of his many failings, too, but Harris was more of the same while Trump was definitely anti-woke. I think if the Democrats had run someone traditionally centrist they would have won easily. I think that was why Biden won over Trump; he seemed more traditionally centrist.