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wow why are so many comments in this thread against Bernie's stance?
by Ancalagon 6mo ago
wow why are so many comments in this thread against Bernie's stance?
- rdevilla 6mo agoHN will flag and downvote anti AI sentiment. There is lots of it here, you just aren't allowed to see it.
- lizardking 6mo agoI feel like we must be visiting different websites.
- sph 6mo agoHave you seen how overwhelmingly anti-AI the non-software-engineering world is? (despite the hypocrisy as plenty use a chatbot these days) The resistance in here is pitiful. I'm lurking in the indie game dev scene, and any mention of using LLMs for anything is downvoted and laughed at.
- fireant 6mo agoGamedevs are vehemently against genai art, but code generation seems more accepted from what I've seen
- sph 6mo agoMost discussion of using code generation on gamedev forums is taboo. As in, do what you want in the privacy of your own home, but in public, try to have some self-respect as an artist. I've seen some "devs" livestreaming themselves coding a game using LLMs, and it's not pretty. But that's my opinion of vibecoding in general — it's the tool one uses when they don't want to think too much, which is the furthest path to greatness. Some random examples off reddit (try to compare the sentiment if it had been posted on Hacker News): - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1rvafee/using_claude_to_help_build_a_small_godot_game_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1rvafee/using_clau... - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1erb39r/is_it_possible_for_someone_with_zero_programming/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1erb39r/is_it_poss... - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1qll8jr/has_anyone_tried_aillm_tools_for_game_development/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1qll8jr/has_anyone... - https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1jitfbi/im_tired_of_the_vibe_game_coding_trend_good_games/ https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1jitfbi/im_tired_o... In general, interest in AI-assisted coding is associated with people that have no experience whatsoever and just want to make a game out of thin air without putting in the effort.
- LarsDu88 6mo agoI posted Bernie's "Conversation with Claude" a while back, and it was just about immediately taken down. Let's face it Y combinator is mostly AI startups for the next few years, and any anti-AI sentiment is going to hurt the bottom line. That being said, I disagree with Sanders on a number of points. He wants to stop data center construction. Can't think of a more luddite un-nuanced solution to the "problem" The real AI danger is not the threat to white collar jobs (which will simply have to evolve), but something we will see roughly 18 months now when Joe Schmo asks Claude Giga Max Supreme 8.0 to help him reduce his taxes, and it hacks into the IRS and deletes everyone's records.
- jrflowers 6mo agoYou think there won’t be any taxes in 2028-2029 because of AI?
- LarsDu88 6mo agoJust an example off the top of my head
- jrflowers 6mo agoThat sounds pretty sweet
- LarsDu88 6mo agoNot sweet for all the public services that depend on taxes
- jrflowers 6mo agoThat’s fine. You said we’ve got 18 months until Claude takes our taxes away so you’ve just gotta get all of your driving done in the next year and a half before the roads fall into permanent disrepair, because of AI
- fortran77 6mo agoI'm the one who posted this link, and I think Bernie Sanders is a terible man. But an op-ed by a U.S. Senator in the WSJ about a tech issue seems like proper HN material. It's been un-flagged by the mods.
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- CamperBob2 6mo agoNot a Bernie supporter, to put it mildly, but to be fair he has never called himself a communist. Making up BS doesn't help.
- bko 6mo agoHe honeymooned in USSR. Which is a rather odd place to honeymoon in 1988. But yes, he never explicitly said he was a communist, but just someone that wants to seize the means of production.
- Capricorn2481 6mo agoHe literally said “I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production.” https://pjmedia.com/ron-radosh/2016/01/18/no-new-york-post-bernie-sanders-is-not-a-communist-n184872 https://pjmedia.com/ron-radosh/2016/01/18/no-new-york-post-b...
- bko 6mo agoThe grocery store thing is a red herring, although its supported by nyc who by your logic is a communist? Thats hardly a definitive test. There are more relevant industries In a 1976 interview, Sanders said, “I favor the public ownership of utilities, banks and major industries,” and when told that sounded like socialism, he replied, “Of course.” “public ownership of the major means of production and their conversion into worker-controlled enterprises.” More recently, Sanders has also been described as backing worker ownership plans, with reporting that he was encouraging workers to take control of the means of production. https://reason.com/2019/03/14/bernie-sanders-wanted-public-ownership-o/ https://reason.com/2019/03/14/bernie-sanders-wanted-public-o... https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/kfile-bernie-nationalization https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/kfile-bernie-nationa... https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/bernie-sanders-workers-should-control-the-means-of-production/ https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/bernie-sanders-workers-...
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 6mo agoThe vitriol I see here only makes me like him more.
- sph 6mo agoPosted when Silicon Valley was awake and on a break from the Easter Monday working hours.