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I'm not being a hater, but we landed on the moon 55+ years ago and now we're doing a flyby with 35+ year-old engine tech. It's good that we're doing something
by nixon_why69 7mo ago
I'm not being a hater, but we landed on the moon 55+ years ago and now we're doing a flyby with 35+ year-old engine tech. It's good that we're doing something but we should be doing better.
- nine_k 7mo agoIn 2-3 years we should expect a Starship mission to Moon, at a much more sensible scale, as in the amount of scientific gear and actual researchers delivered to the surface (and then back).
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- juleiie 7mo agoThere is literally not many things in life I hope so much for than starship success. Sounds strange perhaps but I just love space and I hope it succeeds. Funnily I absolutely despise Musk at the same time for being absolute buffoon
- pstuart 7mo agoWe're days away from the SpaceX IPO that will make Musk even richer than he is now. I don't trust him with that money.
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- juleiie 7mo agoI trust his gargantuan insecurity Sometimes the flaws of someone make him completely predictable. Very trustworthy to repeatedly pour billions in an attempt to become someone he fantasizes to be. There are innumerable amount of assholes in history that sold things we use daily, sometimes at the expense of original inventors. It is hard to cope with the idea that greed, ambition and ruthlessness are the building blocks of everything that stands around us. Sometimes it makes me want to reject everything I know of good and human and feed these traits until they fill the hollow parts of mind with wealth, empty fame and too many lonely sunsets on a private island.
- WalterBright 7mo agoHis stated and oft-repeated goal is to save mankind by making it interplanetary. It doesn't seem to be about personal aggrandizement. He has built no monuments to himself, has not named his company "Musk Inc", he doesn't run for office, etc. Musk does not own a yacht or even a house. > lonely If he feels lonely, he can message me and I'd treat him to dinner.
- juleiie 7mo agoWell he is a piece of shit no matter what theoretical ideals he holds. I am sure many evil people in history wanted to “save mankind” I don’t think I need to remind you how he treated his transgender daughter and that’s just single example
- WalterBright 7mo agoSteve Jobs rejected his daughter. George Washington declined being crowned king and set the tone for a modest and limited Executive branch. Yet he also owned slaves. Saint Thomas More burned people at the stake. You'll have a hard time finding any faultless people.
- juleiie 7mo agoIt's pretty annoying to be a fan of space in 2026. On the one hand you have NASA, a shadow of its former self. Clearly there is something deeply dysfunctional with it. On the other you have an old drug addict, still functional, thankfully, dead set on antagonizing every possible person alive. (I guess dems will probably shut his space program down after they win? Can he even get on good standing with them at all after everything that has transpired?) Shit CEO vs Money pit
- WalterBright 7mo agoGood luck finding a saint. You won't find any.
- brightball 7mo agoLast time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk.
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- WalterBright 7mo agoAnother recent commentator wrote here that he's responsible for "millions" of dead via the curtailing of USAID. I'm a bit skeptical of estimates that vary by 3 orders of magnitude.
- Teever 7mo agoFor the sake of argument let’s say that number was accurate. How would you feel about that?
- WalterBright 7mo agoI'm not engaging in convicting people without concrete evidence.
- Teever 7mo agoI think that the reason you reject the claims and won’t even entertain the notion as a hypothetical is because you know deep down that you’ve been duped by Musk and can’t admit that fact publicly. Should incontrovertible proof of the magnitude of the atrocities that he has committed come to light you’ll pivot and say that it was worth it because he’s taking us to Mars. That’s how conmen work and Musk is a damn good one. The sooner you can admit that you’re duped is the sooner you’ll stop letting yourself be duped by him. I’ll admit that I was duped by him too. I used to believe his stuff and this dream of mars.
- rdtsc 7mo agoHow do we take it away from him?
- WalterBright 7mo ago> I absolutely despise Musk at the same time for being absolute buffoon Buffoonery is harmless, why despise him for that?
- dalyons 7mo agoTell that to the 100k+ people he killed by abruptly and illegally halting usaid
- WalterBright 7mo agoWhat I've heard is it's "thousands", "100k+", and "millions", which doesn't sound like anything trustworthy. Besides, that's not what "buffoonery" means.
- virgildotcodes 7mo agoHere you go - hundreds of thousands as of Nov 2025 - https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths/ https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...
- WalterBright 7mo agoThe link blames the Trump administration, not Musk. google sez: "The World Health Organization (WHO) is the UN's specialized agency for health, aiming to ensure the highest possible level of health for all people. It acts as a global leader, directing health emergencies, promoting healthier lives, expanding universal health coverage, and setting international health standards based on science." Why isn't the WHO stepping up?
- rantingdemon 7mo ago2 to 3 years is wildly optimistic. Of the 5 launches last year 3 were failures and it's not even close to be ready for humans yet.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoSome people don’t understand the difference between testing and use. You can afford to test when your launches cost 1/100 of SLS launches instead of risking human lives. Artemis II was human rated with zero launches of its life support equipment, modeling failures of its heat shield, multiple power issues in its only predecessor flight in space. Starship will carry humans after hundreds of launches and landings.
- verzali 7mo agoI don't believe that to be true. Starship may host humans next year if it can get to a stable orbit and manage to demonstrate sufficient control for docking. It is extremely unlikely to demonstrate any environmental control before that.
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- harrall 7mo agoYou’re not seeing better engines because there aren’t any. We are reaching the limits of physics. That’s why we are working on alternatives like refueling in space or reusable ships. The Artemis missions are testing things that we still have a lot of area to improve upon — materials (a huge one), international standards for things like docking ports, computing, radiation safety, and a lot more.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoArtemis II doesn’t have any docking hardware since it won’t have anything to dock with. And Artemis in general is just using the IDSS used on the ISS and by Dragon and Starliner, nothing new being discovered or tested there.
- hydrogen7800 7mo agoYeah, RS25/SSME still have a higher specific impulse than any boost stage engine in operation, past or present.
- GolfPopper 7mo ago<snark>Did we really need to spend $90 billion and send people past the Moon to troubleshoot Bluetooth?</snark>[1] Sharing because this seems to capture the je ne sais quoi that seems off about Artemis for me. 1. https://github.com/RICLAMER/Artemis_II_2026 https://github.com/RICLAMER/Artemis_II_2026 NASA's Artemis II Live Views from Orion, 04 - Day 1-2 - 03-04-2026 - 1645-Transcript-EN.txt: "03/04/2026 - 18:57:27 (-3 TMZ) | 01:23:22:27 (Artemis Clock) "No joy seeing the device in the list of available devices when I attempt to re-pair it after doing the Bluetooth forget."
- randomNumber7 7mo agoAlso the heatshield is designed in a way that is cheaper to manufacture but less safe.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> but less safe Depending on the outcome, that’s also a way to say less overengineered.