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In Finland we have old saying: "If liquor, tar and sauna won’t help, an illness is fatal"
by csr86 6mo ago
In Finland we have old saying: "If liquor, tar and sauna won’t help, an illness is fatal"
- brightball 6mo agoTar?
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- csr86 6mo ago"Tar, acclaimed to have been formed from the sweat of Väinämöinen, a central character from the Finnish national epic Kalevala, was an important medicament to the former-day Finns. Tar actually did bear antiseptic features, which worked as a cure for infections. Lately tar has been recognised to include parts that can cause cancer, and the European Union has urged that its use should be avoided." [1] I personally dont know how tar was used for health, but it was big export item of Finland during medieval times. [1]https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/5281-liquor-tar-and-sauna-excuse-myth-or-an-option.html https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbein...
- raverbashing 6mo agoI think you can just replace it with Vaseline (Petroleum jelly) for 99% of the benefits
- actionfromafar 6mo agoThat's not antiseptic
- atombender 6mo agoNot directly, but it acts as a barrier against microbes.
- brightball 6mo agoUse honey instead.
- numbsafari 6mo agoGo to an ER or UC and have them dress a wound for you. They will use a healthy dose of petroleum jelly and generally tell you to stay away from antibiotic ointments.
- throwup238 6mo agoI only know how it’s used for psoriasis as part of the Goeckerman method [1] but allegedly there’s some general anti-inflammatory effect. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3735239/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3735239/
- cryzinger 6mo agoIt's mildly anti-fungal as well, which makes it effective in dandruff shampoo since a lot of dandruff is caused by fungal overgrowth, aka seborrheic dermatitis. Another weird/fun one is using bleach as an anti-inflammatory (topical only, of course...), although these days you can find derivative products that offer the same benefits but are much less harsh.
- gehwartzen 6mo agoI take a mild bleach bath sometimes and it’s quite invigorating. Seems to kill off a lot of skin surface bacteria which can sometimes be beneficial (there’s good and bad bacteria on your skin). Not to be done too often but every once in a while I find it helpful. Not all that different from a strongly chlorinated pool. Another cool one, especially if you don’t have a sauna, is doing a mustard bath. You will sweat like a stuck pig
- justinclift 6mo ago> ... doing a mustard bath. So many questions... American, English, or Dijon? *Sponsored by Heinz? ;)
- gehwartzen 6mo agolol. They make formulations you can buy but I make my own. A cup of ground mustard seed, which I buy fairly cheap online, and a few tablespoons of baking soda, plus some essentials oils mainly to cut through the mustard smell. Pour that in a warm bath and soak for 20 mins. Then get out and wrap yourself in a towel and continue sweating for 15 mins or so.
- xattt 6mo agoVishnevski’s Liniment, which contains birch tar, was a common treatment for wound infections and burns in the Soviet bloc. However, this was something that individuals used because there was nothing else at hand. Now, there are things like Fucidin, Polysporin and silver ointment for infected wounds and burns, respectively, that are safer and more effective. Some people still swear by it, because “tradition” and probably some element of malignant patriotism too.
- anjel 6mo agoTar based, (anti)Dandruff Shampoo is still a thing
- BobbyTables2 6mo agoYeah, works great but may cause cancer…
- euroderf 6mo agoIt is great stuff, I use it regularly. It makes my grey hair go all frizzy and flyaway, so that is a plus.
- pimlottc 6mo agoDo you... eat the tar? Put it on your skin? What exactly do you do with it?
- mesrik 6mo agoBesides water proofing wooden boats and long time ago ships pine and fir tar it's been used protecting wooden roof tiles when they were a thing and still are used old wooden churches keeping and restoring. It's used small amounts in additive in soap or shampoo mostly as a scent, mouth pastille and lozenge a for taste, animal health care kind antibacterial and bug resistant etc. long time ago. Quite lot of applications especially old times long time ago before more scientifically developed medicines were commonly available. These days less there but it's used as a scent or for flavour.
- magneticnorth 6mo agoI believe they were asking in the context of the quote at the start of the thread - "If liquor, tar and sauna won’t help, an illness is fatal." I'm also still unclear on how it was used to treat human illness (treating boats and roofs is clear enough)
- card_zero 6mo agoSometimes you eat the delicious tar, yes! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terva_Leijona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terva_Leijona I'm guessing these might no longer contain actual tar.
- lrasinen 6mo agoTar. Specifically wood tar,
- jimmySixDOF 6mo agoPine tar is used in topical medicine for dermatology around the world I don't think it's limited to anywhere particular.
- sollewitt 6mo agoPine sap. You can get a schnapps of it, obviously.
- ascii0eks84 6mo agoNot the tapes, tar pit tar, the black thingy used in boats. And now that I read what's the translation it seems to be asphalt actually.
- pimeys 6mo agoI would say booze rather than liquor. Liquor sounds too fancy.
- yeah879846 6mo agoIt's call alcohol
- KellyCriterion 6mo agoIs it true that new houses are constructed/architectured as "sauna first" and then everything else is planned around the sauna? or is that just an urban legend claim?
- incognito_robot 6mo agoTrust your instincts.
- ascii0eks84 6mo agoWhile it's true something like 90% of the accomodation have a sauna it's not like everything is planned around it. It's more like that it's the ONLY well soundproofed space, with nice atmosphere, that makes life enjoyable when your neighbors suck.
- silvertaza 6mo agoNot around the sauna per se, but sauna is often built first because it serves as a place to live while you're building the house!
- mesrik 6mo agoYes, that it was especially rural environments and not having much options otherwise to live around while building. Sauna that was built then wasn't just one hot room, but it also had at minimum small changing room dressing/undressing, relaxing between turns in steam room. Also if it was first building made then adding also lounge which served as living space with beds and cooking stove while building house was common. With sauna you had place to stay warm first winter, able to get warm water, wash clothes, yourselves and even a give birth old times. Building sauna first made lot of sense. These days sauna for home builders is more about getting sauna somewhere in that floorplan where works well for the intended users of that house.
- fsckboy 6mo ago>sauna is often built first because it serves as a place to live while you're building the house wouldn't a kitchen accomplish that goal better?
- amelius 6mo agoAre there any scientific results showing that this helps?
- debo_ 6mo agoI'm not even Finnish and I came here to post this.
- aivisol 6mo agoChecked life expectancy in Finland: I guess you use booze to offset the positive effects of sauna :)
- Tommix11 6mo agoThe tar ointment I bought in Mariehamn is fantastic for healing small infected cuts and bruises. Highly recommend.