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AI that copied musical artist files copyright claim against artist [updated]

65 points by josephcsible 7mo ago

https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/2039577001531768906 https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/20395770015317689...

october8140 7mo ago
YouTube already had a problem where small channels get copyright strikes for their own content. AI makes that a problem now for everything everywhere.
- wincy 7mo ago
  I’m pretty sure during Covid the guitarist of Dragonforce got his livestream taken down for… playing the song he wrote.
- userbinator 7mo ago
  Maybe AI will be what finally makes people realise how absurd the concept of Imaginary Property is.
  - DonsDiscountGas 7mo ago
    Doubtful. People seem to be moving in the opposite direction since they hate AI so much.
    - userbinator 7mo ago
      From what I've seen, it's just divisive and doesn't seem to follow the usual political lines either.
mellosouls 7mo ago
https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/2039577001531768906 https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/20395770015317689... Alternative link to report: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/folk-artist-battles-ai-voice-clones-and-copyright-fraud https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/folk-artist-battles-ai-voic...
k310 7mo ago
> AI files a copyright claim against the original artist If I read this verbatim, AI, and not the AI company, filed a copyright claim. I thought I read somewhere that AI/LLM works can't be copyrighted, or is this yet another "appeal after appeal after appeal" affair? And I have no idea where this USSC would rule, or how many Winnebagos it would take to sway the decision.
- josephcsible 7mo ago
  That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of extrajudicial processes like YouTube's Content ID: they don't give any court the opportunity to point things like that out.
mrtksn 7mo ago
Ironically, the post doesn’t even mention her name, just “musical artist”. This is part of the engagement bait, leaving details out so that people will click to tweet either to pause the vid to read the moving watermark or to find out her from the comments, increasing the signal for the algorithm. At this point I would say either drop the copyright system or enforce it properly, that is either unlimited derivative works to increase creativity or no one gets to use other people work, not even downloading videos from instagram to “help” a struggling artist spread her message.
- pgrote 7mo ago
  Murphy Campbell https://www.youtube.com/@murphydoesntmatter https://www.youtube.com/@murphydoesntmatter
- shrikant 7mo ago
  Standard BTF nonsense. (BTF = Blue Tick Fucker, an initialism I'm trying to get to take off, primarily in my WhatsApp groups where there's loads of self-proclaimed geopolitics experts claiming to know exactly what's going on and what will happen and why.)
bilekas 7mo ago
"Copyright for me but not for thee" reminds me of Anthropic crying foul about their code being leaked and potentially used [0] YouTube has got a problem with claims though to be fair the sheer amount of volume being added every day it's beyond impossible to asses every claim. Their dispute system could do with some improvements though from what I hear. I am super curious how this could pass the smell test though in a court if all her claims are accurate, surely it's a simple process to prove she created the music first ? 0 - https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-copyright-infringement-claude-code-2026-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-copyright-infringe...
ChrisArchitect 7mo ago
Update 2 days ago from source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DWl8C6KDiRi/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DWl8C6KDiRi/ > UPDATE: Vydia has since withdrawn every single one of their copyright claims thanks to the support I received from this video. I appreciate all of the support but I don’t condone threats of violence against anyone.
phyzix5761 7mo ago
I thought AI generated content couldn't be copyrighted or used in copyright claims. I guess the problem is proving that it was AI generated?
- zaptrem 7mo ago
  YouTube et al's automated copyright systems put way too much trust in the hands of those making the claims.
6stringmerc 7mo ago
AI music can not be copyrighted. She should sue them for damages, lost wages, etc. Otherwise ALL OF YOU ARE NEXT.
- PythagoRascal 7mo ago
  Sue who? Youtube? The claimants? A fraudulent claimant like this is often some anonymous operation that can pop up under a different name the next day. Good luck finding them (and hope they are even located in a place where suing for copyright would even make sense). Youtube is protected by their terms and the DCMA, as far as I know.

65 points by josephcsible 7mo ago

https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/2039577001531768906 https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/20395770015317689...

october8140 7mo ago

YouTube already had a problem where small channels get copyright strikes for their own content. AI makes that a problem now for everything everywhere.

wincy 7mo ago
I’m pretty sure during Covid the guitarist of Dragonforce got his livestream taken down for… playing the song he wrote.
userbinator 7mo ago
Maybe AI will be what finally makes people realise how absurd the concept of Imaginary Property is.
- DonsDiscountGas 7mo ago
  Doubtful. People seem to be moving in the opposite direction since they hate AI so much.
  - userbinator 7mo ago
    From what I've seen, it's just divisive and doesn't seem to follow the usual political lines either.

mellosouls 7mo ago

https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/2039577001531768906 https://xcancel.com/VladTheInflator/status/20395770015317689... Alternative link to report: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/folk-artist-battles-ai-voice-clones-and-copyright-fraud https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/folk-artist-battles-ai-voic...

k310 7mo ago

> AI files a copyright claim against the original artist If I read this verbatim, AI, and not the AI company, filed a copyright claim. I thought I read somewhere that AI/LLM works can't be copyrighted, or is this yet another "appeal after appeal after appeal" affair? And I have no idea where this USSC would rule, or how many Winnebagos it would take to sway the decision.

josephcsible 7mo ago
That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of extrajudicial processes like YouTube's Content ID: they don't give any court the opportunity to point things like that out.

mrtksn 7mo ago

Ironically, the post doesn’t even mention her name, just “musical artist”. This is part of the engagement bait, leaving details out so that people will click to tweet either to pause the vid to read the moving watermark or to find out her from the comments, increasing the signal for the algorithm. At this point I would say either drop the copyright system or enforce it properly, that is either unlimited derivative works to increase creativity or no one gets to use other people work, not even downloading videos from instagram to “help” a struggling artist spread her message.

pgrote 7mo ago
Murphy Campbell https://www.youtube.com/@murphydoesntmatter https://www.youtube.com/@murphydoesntmatter
shrikant 7mo ago
Standard BTF nonsense. (BTF = Blue Tick Fucker, an initialism I'm trying to get to take off, primarily in my WhatsApp groups where there's loads of self-proclaimed geopolitics experts claiming to know exactly what's going on and what will happen and why.)

bilekas 7mo ago

"Copyright for me but not for thee" reminds me of Anthropic crying foul about their code being leaked and potentially used [0] YouTube has got a problem with claims though to be fair the sheer amount of volume being added every day it's beyond impossible to asses every claim. Their dispute system could do with some improvements though from what I hear. I am super curious how this could pass the smell test though in a court if all her claims are accurate, surely it's a simple process to prove she created the music first ? 0 - https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-copyright-infringement-claude-code-2026-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-copyright-infringe...

ChrisArchitect 7mo ago

Update 2 days ago from source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DWl8C6KDiRi/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DWl8C6KDiRi/ > UPDATE: Vydia has since withdrawn every single one of their copyright claims thanks to the support I received from this video. I appreciate all of the support but I don’t condone threats of violence against anyone.

phyzix5761 7mo ago

I thought AI generated content couldn't be copyrighted or used in copyright claims. I guess the problem is proving that it was AI generated?

zaptrem 7mo ago
YouTube et al's automated copyright systems put way too much trust in the hands of those making the claims.

6stringmerc 7mo ago

AI music can not be copyrighted. She should sue them for damages, lost wages, etc. Otherwise ALL OF YOU ARE NEXT.

PythagoRascal 7mo ago
Sue who? Youtube? The claimants? A fraudulent claimant like this is often some anonymous operation that can pop up under a different name the next day. Good luck finding them (and hope they are even located in a place where suing for copyright would even make sense). Youtube is protected by their terms and the DCMA, as far as I know.