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Sidenote but I don't get why you would want to pay github to run Claude on your code. Yeah github pays Claude but what's the point ?

ponkpanda 6mo ago
Tighter (read better) integration with VSCode and Github than what you could get running claude code on the side. Your question does raise a valid point - Github Copilot's value proposition is fairly limited in my opinion. Not to say worthless but limited and clearly varies depending on how Githubbey your dev workflows are.
everfrustrated 6mo ago
The workflow that GitHub has for prompting agent inside the ide itself is by far and away the nicest and most intuitive I've used. Claude's integration looked like trash in comparison. Why would I lock myself into a single vendor when I can have access to all models. Also the GitHub subscription is a very good price.
- chatmasta 6mo ago
  Yeah, the workflow is superb. That’s what I miss most using Claude in a terminal inside VSCode. It doesn’t integrate with VSCode native diff tools like the native VSCode (GitHub Copilot does. The Claude extension in non-terminal mode is crap.
SturgeonsLaw 6mo ago
From a user point of view there's no real reason for it, from an admin point of view if your team is already using Github Enterprise then deploying it is basically hitting a toggle switch, and it has some more fine grained controls about what it can or can't do compared to Claude Code.
yreg 6mo ago
Most corporations have Microsoft already greenlisted as a vendor. Making it possible to buy something from Anthropic might require tedious paperwork for many of them.
- duzer65657 6mo ago
  you can also get a service contract via MS quite easily/cheaply, which mightnot help you with hard problems but does solve the easy ones. example: in earlydays we bought OpenAI API directly and via Azure; when we needed account service we got it immediately from MS instead of waitlists from OpenAI.
mschulkind 6mo ago
I use it because they offer absurdly cheap prices that they're clearly losing money on. I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot.
- aucisson_masque 6mo ago
  > I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot. Holy moly I guess it won't last long, abuse it as much as you can right now.
gWPVhyxPHqvk 6mo ago
It's massively cheaper. Copilot charges per request, which with some clever prompting, can lead to huge amounts of work being done at fractions of the cost of Claude Code. Millions of tokens for mere pennies. MS must be taking a huge hit somewhere, because I'm probably getting 10-20x my value out of GH relative to CC. I am not locked in to Anthropic, either. I can easily switch between GPT and Gemini models based on how I think each would perform in various scenarios. That's a big win. I use a lot of design with Opus, implement with GPT 5.4. Also, Github Copilot CLI is pretty much at feature parity (for the stuff that matters) with Claude Code. Using both at work and home, I don't think there's much difference in features between the two. Maybe I'm not a super power user, and just a regular dumb user, but GH doesn't seem buggy and everything I think I'd want to do with CC I can do with GH.
- maille 6mo ago
  How can I learn that clever prompting?
  - esafak 6mo ago
    Try to pack as much clear work into your prompt as you can so you don't go back and forth.
    - chatmasta 6mo ago
      Do hacks like “read prompt.md, and follow its instructions. When you’re done, read it again and follow its instructions.” And then you have some background process appending to the file to keep it warm and you just keep writing there?
      - deleted 6mo ago
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      - esafak 6mo ago
        You could do that. I was just trying to say that if you make your original prompt complete enough, and you have well-defined success criteria, you can tell it to keep going until they are met.

ponkpanda 6mo ago

Tighter (read better) integration with VSCode and Github than what you could get running claude code on the side. Your question does raise a valid point - Github Copilot's value proposition is fairly limited in my opinion. Not to say worthless but limited and clearly varies depending on how Githubbey your dev workflows are.

everfrustrated 6mo ago

The workflow that GitHub has for prompting agent inside the ide itself is by far and away the nicest and most intuitive I've used. Claude's integration looked like trash in comparison. Why would I lock myself into a single vendor when I can have access to all models. Also the GitHub subscription is a very good price.

chatmasta 6mo ago
Yeah, the workflow is superb. That’s what I miss most using Claude in a terminal inside VSCode. It doesn’t integrate with VSCode native diff tools like the native VSCode (GitHub Copilot does. The Claude extension in non-terminal mode is crap.

SturgeonsLaw 6mo ago

From a user point of view there's no real reason for it, from an admin point of view if your team is already using Github Enterprise then deploying it is basically hitting a toggle switch, and it has some more fine grained controls about what it can or can't do compared to Claude Code.

yreg 6mo ago

Most corporations have Microsoft already greenlisted as a vendor. Making it possible to buy something from Anthropic might require tedious paperwork for many of them.

duzer65657 6mo ago
you can also get a service contract via MS quite easily/cheaply, which mightnot help you with hard problems but does solve the easy ones. example: in earlydays we bought OpenAI API directly and via Azure; when we needed account service we got it immediately from MS instead of waitlists from OpenAI.

mschulkind 6mo ago

I use it because they offer absurdly cheap prices that they're clearly losing money on. I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot.

aucisson_masque 6mo ago
> I can get $1000 at API prices of Opus 4.6, for in the range of $2 my cost through copilot. Holy moly I guess it won't last long, abuse it as much as you can right now.

gWPVhyxPHqvk 6mo ago

It's massively cheaper. Copilot charges per request, which with some clever prompting, can lead to huge amounts of work being done at fractions of the cost of Claude Code. Millions of tokens for mere pennies. MS must be taking a huge hit somewhere, because I'm probably getting 10-20x my value out of GH relative to CC. I am not locked in to Anthropic, either. I can easily switch between GPT and Gemini models based on how I think each would perform in various scenarios. That's a big win. I use a lot of design with Opus, implement with GPT 5.4. Also, Github Copilot CLI is pretty much at feature parity (for the stuff that matters) with Claude Code. Using both at work and home, I don't think there's much difference in features between the two. Maybe I'm not a super power user, and just a regular dumb user, but GH doesn't seem buggy and everything I think I'd want to do with CC I can do with GH.

maille 6mo ago
How can I learn that clever prompting?
- esafak 6mo ago
  Try to pack as much clear work into your prompt as you can so you don't go back and forth.
  - chatmasta 6mo ago
    Do hacks like “read prompt.md, and follow its instructions. When you’re done, read it again and follow its instructions.” And then you have some background process appending to the file to keep it warm and you just keep writing there?
    - deleted 6mo ago
      [deleted]
    - esafak 6mo ago
      You could do that. I was just trying to say that if you make your original prompt complete enough, and you have well-defined success criteria, you can tell it to keep going until they are met.