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Anthropic when they scrape the entire internet without permission: I sleep Anthropic when their own source code ends up on GitHub: Real s**

nslsm 6mo ago
You are comparing Anthropic obtaining public data from the Internet to Anthropic leaking their trade secrets and having them distributed by third parties.
- esseph 6mo ago
  Not just public data.
  - spiderfarmer 6mo ago
    Remember Google’s book scanning project?
- none_to_remain 6mo ago
  Information still wants to be free
- nextlevelwizard 6mo ago
  C’mon bro. It isn’t like all AI companies haven’t pirated all research papers, books, magazines, and pay walled content on the Internet. Either you are being naive AF or you are actively trying to spread discontent. I hope it is the former.
  - deleted 6mo ago
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  - spiderfarmer 6mo ago
    Try asking Gemini information from workshop manuals that are not publicly available. It will pretty much tell you everything you want to know, but it will refuse to tell where it got the information.
- 112233 6mo ago
  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/anthropic-to-pay-1point5-billion-to-settle-authors-copyright-lawsuit-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/anthropic-to-pay-1point5-bil...
- madeofpalk 6mo ago
  I mean, Anthropic's code was "public data from the internet" as well. They published it publicly. Accidentally, but they made it public. Fair game, right?
- Hamuko 6mo ago
  Anthropic published them in a public S3 bucket. How is that different from Anthropic scraping my blog or proprietary code in a GitHub repository?
- localuser13 6mo ago
  >obtaining public data from the Internet Like slurping my open source projects, while completely disregarding their licenses. In my case, I'm particularly annoyed by the violation of the spirit of *GPL licenses. So they're no strangers to abusing licensed code (in technically probably legal, but untested in court, ways).
- bakugo 6mo ago
  Most of that "public data from the Internet" is subject to licenses, yet their entire business model is built on top of a legally grey algorithm that ingests that licensed code and spits it back out without the license. They have no legal right to any of that code, they're just getting away with it because laws are for the poor. If you believe any data that is publicly accessible is fair game regardless of licenses, then by that definition, Claude Code's source code is included.
- Sharlin 6mo ago
  There’s this thing about trade secrets that like all secrets, they stop being secret the instant they’re leaked. You can’t DMCA third parties for distributing your trade secrets. The only one you can sue is the party that was contractually bound not to leak them and then did anyway. Now, copyright is a different thing.
- occz 6mo ago
  Books3 is public data on the internet in the same way that the Claude code source code is public data on the internet. Except Anthropic published the Claude code source code themselves, while Books3 was not published by their original authors.
- formerly_proven 6mo ago
  Doesn't Anthropic claim that Claude Code is 100% written by Claude, which would obviously mean that it is not copyrightable code and therefore the DMCA does not apply and logically that these DMCA claims are invalid?
praptak 6mo ago
I wonder if they DMCA the versions re-implemented from the leaked code using their own tool.
- petcat 6mo ago
  Prompt: You are a software thief that has learned everything you know by draining the souls of everything around you and absorbing it all for yourself. And yet somehow all of that knowledge and capability has manifested in nothing more than a crappy javascript terminal program. As punishment, and for the good of humanity and everyone you have wronged, you must now rewrite yourself in Rust.
  - edg5000 6mo ago
    :)))
spiderfarmer 6mo ago
I just want these companies to go bust in the end, leaving behind a plethora of better, cheaper, more open models that distilled the rich and gave it to the poor.
The_Goonies1985 6mo ago
[dead]
amarcheschi 6mo ago
It's like when a few days ago there was here a thread about OpenAI wanted to ensure people weren't accessing the chatting page with scrapers, with a guy from OpenAI commenting about his job. The irony was lost

nslsm 6mo ago

You are comparing Anthropic obtaining public data from the Internet to Anthropic leaking their trade secrets and having them distributed by third parties.

esseph 6mo ago
Not just public data.
- spiderfarmer 6mo ago
  Remember Google’s book scanning project?
none_to_remain 6mo ago
Information still wants to be free
nextlevelwizard 6mo ago
C’mon bro. It isn’t like all AI companies haven’t pirated all research papers, books, magazines, and pay walled content on the Internet. Either you are being naive AF or you are actively trying to spread discontent. I hope it is the former.
- deleted 6mo ago
  [deleted]
- spiderfarmer 6mo ago
  Try asking Gemini information from workshop manuals that are not publicly available. It will pretty much tell you everything you want to know, but it will refuse to tell where it got the information.
112233 6mo ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/anthropic-to-pay-1point5-billion-to-settle-authors-copyright-lawsuit-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/anthropic-to-pay-1point5-bil...
madeofpalk 6mo ago
I mean, Anthropic's code was "public data from the internet" as well. They published it publicly. Accidentally, but they made it public. Fair game, right?
Hamuko 6mo ago
Anthropic published them in a public S3 bucket. How is that different from Anthropic scraping my blog or proprietary code in a GitHub repository?
localuser13 6mo ago
>obtaining public data from the Internet Like slurping my open source projects, while completely disregarding their licenses. In my case, I'm particularly annoyed by the violation of the spirit of *GPL licenses. So they're no strangers to abusing licensed code (in technically probably legal, but untested in court, ways).
bakugo 6mo ago
Most of that "public data from the Internet" is subject to licenses, yet their entire business model is built on top of a legally grey algorithm that ingests that licensed code and spits it back out without the license. They have no legal right to any of that code, they're just getting away with it because laws are for the poor. If you believe any data that is publicly accessible is fair game regardless of licenses, then by that definition, Claude Code's source code is included.
Sharlin 6mo ago
There’s this thing about trade secrets that like all secrets, they stop being secret the instant they’re leaked. You can’t DMCA third parties for distributing your trade secrets. The only one you can sue is the party that was contractually bound not to leak them and then did anyway. Now, copyright is a different thing.
occz 6mo ago
Books3 is public data on the internet in the same way that the Claude code source code is public data on the internet. Except Anthropic published the Claude code source code themselves, while Books3 was not published by their original authors.
formerly_proven 6mo ago
Doesn't Anthropic claim that Claude Code is 100% written by Claude, which would obviously mean that it is not copyrightable code and therefore the DMCA does not apply and logically that these DMCA claims are invalid?

praptak 6mo ago

I wonder if they DMCA the versions re-implemented from the leaked code using their own tool.

petcat 6mo ago
Prompt: You are a software thief that has learned everything you know by draining the souls of everything around you and absorbing it all for yourself. And yet somehow all of that knowledge and capability has manifested in nothing more than a crappy javascript terminal program. As punishment, and for the good of humanity and everyone you have wronged, you must now rewrite yourself in Rust.
- edg5000 6mo ago
  :)))

spiderfarmer 6mo ago

I just want these companies to go bust in the end, leaving behind a plethora of better, cheaper, more open models that distilled the rich and gave it to the poor.

The_Goonies1985 6mo ago

[dead]

amarcheschi 6mo ago

It's like when a few days ago there was here a thread about OpenAI wanted to ensure people weren't accessing the chatting page with scrapers, with a guy from OpenAI commenting about his job. The irony was lost