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Wherever their major offices are look for newspapers in the small towns nearby advertising for "Software developers for Oracle" all written in the tiniest print
by rdtsc 6mo ago
Wherever their major offices are look for newspapers in the small towns nearby advertising for "Software developers for Oracle" all written in the tiniest print, right next to classified that sell used bikes, car parts and other stuff.
- "Well, Uncle Sam, we looked so hard in US and nobody answered our job posts, we have to go to ... $othercountry to hire, there is no other way"
- toomuchtodo 6mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44880832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44880832 https://www.jobs.now/ https://www.jobs.now/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44892321
- rdtsc 6mo agoI remember seeing it on HN but didn't know if would still be up. Glad it's still going. Thanks!
- pj_mukh 6mo agoJust to cut through the headline here. The largest chunk of Oracle layoffs were in India [1]. In comparison, they've barely fired any American workers. Contrary to popular opinion, IT workers aren't interchangeable and there exist a large swath of jobs that very few people qualify for (HN should know this) because of the specialization required. America is at near full employment [2]. Replacing American workers with lower paid foreign workers is already illegal and frequently enforced[3]. This is such a deep distraction but a virulent virus of a narrative, surgically designed to needle our reptilian minds. [1]: https://www.goodreturns.in/news/tech-layoffs-2025-oracle-cuts-jobs-in-india-us-mexico-indian-employees-in-bangalore-pune-hyderabad-w-1449645.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.goodreturns.in/news/tech-layoffs-2025-oracle-cut... [2]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/269959/employment-in-the-united-states/?srsltid=AfmBOoq_VmKuqONf8D4Z-XYB7E23IeUALWggq_Z3DX7Vc8DuIeVMiHNJ https://www.statista.com/statistics/269959/employment-in-the... [3]: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2, https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2
- bsjdjdkdkdkdk 6mo ago[flagged]
- saulpw 6mo agoFrom your first link, it says 10% of 28k employees in India were cut. I personally know several people who were laid off from Oracle this week (OCI). One person who's still there described it as a "bloodbath across our division" and says he counted 15k. I don't know what exactly he was counting but as we're in North America I am assuming they're all here. Whereas India layoffs were fewer than 3k. So that directly disputes your statement that "they've barely fired any American workers".
- pj_mukh 6mo ago[flagged]
- dominotw 6mo ago> The largest chunk of Oracle layoffs were in India [1]. In comparison, they've barely fired any American workers. Why dont you address your blatant lie here instead of going on cringy pie tangent?
- george916a 6mo ago[flagged]
- VonGuard 6mo agoCan confirm. Friend laid off on team of 15, that team is now down to 7. They built datacenters, too. US based. That's, sorta concerning since I thought their entire future bag was making datacenters......
- nnurmanov 6mo ago[dead]
- iugtmkbdfil834 6mo ago
- ergocoder 6mo agoStanford also filed an H1B this year to hire an IT person. https://x.com/chrisbrunet/status/2037376353461567734 https://x.com/chrisbrunet/status/2037376353461567734 Apparently, no citizen wants to do this job? Why do we allow things like this?
- andriy_koval 6mo ago"we" don't allow, but also don't enforce (violators are rarely punished).
- ergocoder 6mo agoI feel like this is legal i.e. we allow it. Stanford wouldn't blatantly violate laws like this.
- andriy_koval 6mo agoit could be not blatant violation, but they more like don't track this on their side because don't think it is a big deal, so some individual can act like that. Blatant violation would be if they do it on many cases and large scale.
- jltsiren 6mo agoWithout knowing anything about that particular case, I would assume that the person was initially hired as an F-1 student and later changed to OPT status. University IT tends to hire students to entry-level positions all around the world. And now Stanford wants to keep the proven employee instead of going through the uncertainty of hiring a new person. So maybe the actual question is what kind of a Stanford undergraduate would choose a university IT position in ~2021 instead of aiming for more lucrative tech roles. Perhaps the kind that wants to maximize their chances of getting H-1B.
- wellthisisgreat 6mo agoor people just like IT administration and Stanford as a work environment? Family etc. factors?
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- supliminal 6mo agoDo you have any evidence to back that up?
- rdtsc 6mo agoI do
- sethev 6mo agoI worked at a company once that posted h-1b jobs on a piece of paper on a board next to a restroom at the office. That was technically a publicly accessible area (if you had a guest pass).
- mavelikara 6mo agoThat is an LCA requirement. The company did well to publish this at a place where employees frequent.
- shreyssh 6mo ago[dead]
- baby 6mo agoThe move is to hire remote workers so you can easily hire outside the US, or create office locations in other countries
- zapatos 6mo agoHeard a job ad for a TikTok senior data scientist on FM radio at 11am last week.