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a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi,
by bijowo1676 7mo ago
a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Israel, etc).
Total cost is so much bigger, it is staggering. The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind.
in addition to cost, they all require Rare Earth Minerals, and China has banned the export of these (they own like 99% of the market).
So not only CENTCOM is blind and incurred damage in high single digit billions, but also will be unable to repair the damage any time soon (probably for decades) even if the funding were made to be available
Government obviously pretty silent on all these failures and media doesn't want to dig and ask hard questions
Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/03/world/middleeast/iran-strikes-us-military-communication-infrastructure-in-mideast.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/03/world/middleeast/iran-str...
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/iran-radars-airstrikes/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/iran-radars-airstrikes/
- quantum_state 7mo agoThese very expensive toys are the reasons of the to be $1.5 trillion DoW budget. It’s insane and not sustainable.
- laughing_man 7mo ago$1.5 trillion is the budget the Pentagon is requesting for next year. It's highly unlikely Congress will give them that much money.
- jckrichabdkejdb 7mo ago[dead]
- juliusceasar 7mo agoThis is good news. Actually not for those whom chose to start the 2nd Epstein war. I really hope that Israeli and Iranian governments both go to hell. May both destroy each other.
- iwontberude 7mo agoFor the United States, the government doesn't have the capability to extricate Israel from its political system, but the feds can create blowback for Israel which makes them less capable to influence the US in the future while achieving other strategic aims in the region. US war planners know plenty about blow back and I think this is being done on purpose. I am terrified for innocent Israelis, Iranians and Gulf state residents that have been led into this. Most of the states and peoples in the Middle East who have been destroyed used to be allies with the US. That isn't on accident.
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- readitalready 7mo agoGovernment could sanction Israel like they did to Iran.
- iwontberude 7mo agoNope, that would take congressional approval and congressional leaders are all bought by the people that paid for the Iran Sanctions Act of 1996. At this point only DoD and CIA can make it happen, thus why I mention any of this.
- ericd 7mo agoFact check on this brand new account?
- nujabe 7mo agoAre you asking someone to fact check publicly available information for you ? Even NYT reported this
- ericd 7mo agoTraveling with kids on spring break, I don’t have time to read all war related news, and it tends to set off my propaganda account alarm when someone registers a new account to drop a bunch of assertions on such a politically divisive topic. So I was asking whether someone could confirm things like “The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind.” There’s a good reason new accounts are colored green.
- the__alchemist 7mo agoNew account that only has politics-adjacent posts; worth being skeptical.
- Ms-J 7mo agoIf you spend a moment to verify the info that is the fact check. No one can do the thinking for you.
- ericd 7mo agoDid a quick search, didn’t see confirmation that they’re blind/that all radars had been knocked out. Was asking whether others who know more about this topic than me would confirm.
- Ms-J 7mo agoYou did a reasonable check in my opinion. Perhaps if you had said that you already did search I wouldn't have written the last part. Also if I had an answer to your question I would say it. Hope you are able to find the answer.
- ignoramous 7mo ago> Government obviously pretty silent on all these failures and media doesn't want to dig and ask hard questions Some analysts are sure drumming up the severity [0]. In the fog of war, it is hard to tell what's exaggerated and what's not. The proposal by the current US Admin to increase defence spending by 40% to $1.5t is not a welcome sign for those opposed to heavy spending, for any number of reasons. [0] https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/the-last-molecule-standing https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/the-last-molecule... / https://archive.vn/5H0L5 https://archive.vn/5H0L5
- grafmax 7mo ago> In the fog of war, it is hard to tell what's exaggerated and what's not. Honestly it's more than that. Propaganda and lies put out by ALL actors in this conflict. If you want to understand what's going on I think you have the expose yourself to as many competing sources as you can find. And still you're going to end up with a very shoddy picture. The term for this is epistemic collapse.
- awesome_dude 7mo agoThis. One of the things I have disliked about the Iranian conflict is that their propaganda/messaging has been, by quite a margin, more reliable than what the US/Israel have been putting out. I like to think that I live in a free/liberal democratic portion of the world, but seeing the "other side" being more honest really puts a dent in things.
- oa335 7mo ago> One of the things I have disliked about the Iranian conflict is that their propaganda/messaging has been, by quite a margin, more reliable than what the US/Israel have been putting out. Can you please expand on this with some examples?
- awesome_dude 7mo agoThe most recent example - I have been seeing reels/tik toks fronted by young women, that push Iranian talking points, they were saying that Trump's announcements on the conflict were timed to manipulate markets, and to "watch tomorrow" They were referring to a Sunday before the Markets opened, and right on cue President Trump started making announcements that had a massive effect on market movements Previously the USA government were downplaying (then retaliatory) Iranian drone attacks on bases in the middle east, claiming zero damage, and laughing at the attackers, the Iranians provided footage that showed real damage, and the US military released statement(s) that agreed with the Iranian claims. Now, I'm not going to pretend that the Iranian regime is anything but a steaming pile of ew, but the lesson we were supposed to learn from the Vietnam war, and the Iraq war (II), was that hearts and minds are the key to "winning", and that's built on trust, which is built on transparency and honesty. edit: and the Afghanistan invasion
- schappim 7mo ago> Iron Dome relied on these radars — all blind now. Iron Dome’s primary fire-control radar is the Israeli EL/M-2084 Multi-Mission Radar, not the USA’s AN/FPS-132
- awesome_dude 7mo agoI think that there is a problem here - you're talking about the firing of the defense system at targets, whereas knowing that that radar needs to be readied because missiles have been detected is what the other radar system provided.
- thisislife2 7mo agoI've read that NATO radars in Turkey were equally important to provide early warning to Israel. It's not far-fetched to assume that US radars in the middle-east did too. US THAAD in Israel would definitely be networked into those.
- bijowo1676 7mo agoGCC radars are needed for early warning, not only fire control. the evidence is Alert system may not even work for missiles, or give very short warning (seconds to 1 minute instead of the usual 10 minutes) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-03-07/ty-article/.premium/short-notice-rocket-alerts-are-due-to-operational-considerations-idf-says/0000019c-c7c8-d2c4-afde-f7cea4f60000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-03-... If we are speaking of interception/penetration, these are also solved by Iran using several strategies that Israel/CENTCOM did not expect: 1. use of cluster munitions 2. exhaustion of expensive interceptor inventory (exchanging $7000 shahed drone for $3-5 mln worth of PAC-3 interceptors) 3. Use of penetration aids 4. Changing trajectory at the terminal stage 5. coordinating swarm attacks (let AD to intercept SRBMs, while the real damage is caused by abundant cheap Shaheds that fly too slow and low to be detected) Sources: https://en.defence-ua.com/news/russia_likely_modified_iranian_ballistic_missiles_to_evade_patriot_air_defense_systems-17734.html https://en.defence-ua.com/news/russia_likely_modified_irania... https://www.csis.org/analysis/unpacking-irans-drone-campaign-gulf-early-lessons-future-drone-warfare https://www.csis.org/analysis/unpacking-irans-drone-campaign... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-cluster-bombs-bypassing-israel-air-defences https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-cluster-b...
- fsckboy 7mo ago>So not only CENTCOM is blind and incurred damage in high single digit billions, but also will be unable to repair the damage any time soon (probably for decades) even if the funding were made to be available not just what i quoted, but your source does not say any of what you are saying. your source says: Satellite images show damage near vital equipment on sites in at least five countries https://archive.ph/QHNXW https://archive.ph/QHNXW
- outside2344 7mo agoAnd running out of Patriots
- trhway 7mo agoLooks like Iran is doing what i suggested Ukraine should have done to Russia https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42529638 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42529638
- Rotdhizon 7mo agoAbsolutely. A big part of the western Ukrainian defense was solely to drain the Russian military apparatus and drain they have. It will take Russia decades to rebuild their fighting force. Now Russia and China are doing it right back to us and the intelligence gained from this conflict is extremely valuable. Come to find out the US has been sitting on ego in its military more than actual might. The previously untouchable machines of war in the sky are now very much touchable. All that's left is for them to sink a battle ship. If Iran can shoot them down, you can bet China can inflict exponentially more harm. Drain our intercept missiles, destroy radars, corrode relationships, etc. At this point, China has the world on a silver platter if they want it.
- freefrog1234aa 7mo agoRussia has rebuilt their military, which was neglected at the beginning of the war. The Russian and Ukrainian armies have adopted to drone warfare, which the rest of the world lags behind.
- Rotdhizon 7mo agoThey haven't rebuilt the manpower. They've lost no less than a few hundred thousand fighting age men over the course of the war. It will take them 20-30 years minimum just for those births to occur and those newborns to make it to military age.
- mgfist 7mo ago
- HarHarVeryFunny 7mo agoNo problem - Trump is asking for an FY 2027 1.5 TRILLION dollar military budget, and just said that Medicare and Medicare may need to be cut to afford it.
- nashashmi 7mo agoA reminder that these losses will mean we all each lose something. And Israel gains a whole lot more. What’s the next country we move to?
- pstuart 7mo agoCuba. In a "rational" world the quagmire of Iran would make such a move unlikely, but with this administration the prospect of an "easy win" could have them just go for it. After all, nobody's stopping them. The Constitution only remains so that the 2A fanatics can LARP at being patriots.
- mukmuk 7mo agoOur country is currently enforcing a blockade that is murdering children in Cuba. It is all so sickening.
- 4gotunameagain 7mo agoAs well as aiding and abetting Israel actively murder children, starve them, and sequester the land of Palestine and Lebanon. So much for the moral high ground.
- PearlRiver 7mo agoIf the US is allowed to annex Cuba the PRC has a right to take back Taiwan.
- zorobo 7mo agoTaiwan people have not been risking their lives trying to escape to join PRC.
- dzonga 7mo agoa war end up being a war about information. hence the first department that goes into full throttle mode in any war - is the department of propaganda | press corps (as modernly called). so we gonna see lies on both sides - Iranians | US / Israel. with the truth in between.
- 3abiton 7mo agoIran was known to have such capabilities, it's baffling the US wasn't more prepared in its gulf bases.
- mgfist 7mo agoIf only there was a 4 year long war where thousands of drones are flown every day both on offense and defense that we could have learned from ..
- mayama 7mo agoProblem is that there was too much propaganda in that war, that parsing propaganda is too difficult even for military watchers, let alone general public. Only when american weapons are being destroyed that, US MIC is willing to acknowledge that may be million+ usd missiles are not solution to cheap drones.
- ohhman11 7mo agoThis is a completely unrelated problem, the US MIC is heavily incentivized to invent new problems.
- phs318u 7mo agoProblem is also that your “Secretary of War” has fired two dozen of your most experienced military leaders since coming into office. When the history of the American demise as a global superpower gets written, this war and the government behind it, will merit a beefy chapter. https://www.bostonpoliticalreview.org/post/pete-hegseth-fires-navy-chief-of-staff-in-string-of-firings-and-resignations https://www.bostonpoliticalreview.org/post/pete-hegseth-fire...
- sheeshkebab 7mo agoThese traitors will eventually be all prosecuted. They are all traitors with putin connections, every one of them.
- amirhirsch 7mo agoGp was referring to AN/TPY2 which is the THAAD radar. Iron dome has nothing to do with that systems.
- FrustratedMonky 7mo agoIran fired at 17. Do we know how many radars are actually offline? I thought it was only 2. So maybe not blind? but also, hard to verify.
- positron26 7mo ago> Rare Earth Minerals... ...unable to repair the damage any time soon (probably for decades) Look bro, if we can make SR-71s out of pizza ovens, I'm pretty sure somewhere in the CIA can scrounge up a few ounces of gadoluminium. Tankie dreams are placation for those who wait for somebody else to make the birdseed fall from the sky.