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If true I can’t imagine it will play well even among Trumps base. When was the last time a US fighter jet was shot down? 1999 during the intervention in the bal
by victorbjorklund 7mo ago
If true I can’t imagine it will play well even among Trumps base. When was the last time a US fighter jet was shot down? 1999 during the intervention in the balkans?
- panarky 7mo agoYou overestimate the base. The war machine is already rewriting this as Iranian hostility. The base is incapable of seeing this as a failure of their cult leader. Instead they'll see it as the very rationale and justification of the war. If they were ambivalent about it before, now they'll scream bloody murder for even more off-the-leash barbarism from the US and Israel.
- butlike 7mo agoWhy are you helping them galvanize? Let them come up with their own raison d'etre.
- kelnos 7mo agoHonestly it seems like the only thing Trump's base cares about is the price of gasoline. They don't give a shit about what's actually happening in the war.
- technothrasher 7mo agoFrom the MAGA folks I know, they don't even care about the price of gasoline. That was when Biden was president. Now they have excuses. All they really seem to care about is whatever they're currently told to care about by the administration.
- LAC-Tech 7mo agoTrump has a loyal hardcore, but he is absolutely bleeding supporters around the edges. If you follow the US right many of them are pledging to vote democrat in the midterms as a protest.
- asdff 7mo agoI noticed a wave of that right as trump declared war (declared conflict, whatever), people going "I voted for no new wars," but I noticed on /r/conservative that the takes quickly gave way to sudden concern about Iran's nuclear capability as the propaganda mills got their fodder in order.
- LAC-Tech 7mo agoWho moderates /r/conservative? Whenever I drop into old subreddits these days the whole place feels very astro-turfed. High chance that it's modded by zionists, they have a lot of money and a lot of different organisations that hire full time people to "fight disinformation".
- mhb 7mo agoThe Myth of the All-Powerful Israel Lobby https://www.thefp.com/p/coleman-hughes-the-myth-of-the-all-powerful-israel-lobby https://www.thefp.com/p/coleman-hughes-the-myth-of-the-all-p...
- LAC-Tech 7mo agoNot an argument. Between - ADL - StandWithUs - AIPAC - Zionist Organization of America - Foundation to Combat Anti-Semitism - Act.IL / RiseAPP - Israel Hub and more, there's enough resources to get Their People into moderator positions at /r/conservative.
- mhb 7mo agoThose Zionists are everywhere.
- defrost 7mo agoThey didn't make it into the Jewish Council of Australia: https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/who-we-are https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/who-we-are ... but there's certainly no shortage of Zionist pressure and lobby groups wanting leverage and influence.
- dmoy 7mo agoLooks like yes. Last jet shot down was a warthog in Iraq 2003. Last fighter jets shot down were a nighthawk and falcon in 1999.
- asdff 7mo agoAnother warthog went down today.
- derriz 7mo agoTrump leads a personality cult not a traditional political base. There are some who have stopped supporting him because they thought he aligned with their political views but 35% or so of the US population still support him despite his 180 degree turn on two of his foundational election promises: to keep the US out of foreign wars and to bust open an international pedophile ring run for elites.
- hirako2000 7mo agoHad also promised to end the war in Ukraine. In two weeks.
- intended 7mo agoLet’s see. Most people underestimate how strong Trump’s approval is with his base. Before you read further, ask yourself what Trump’s approval rating is with his base. > Approval of Trump among Republicans has slipped to a second-term low of 84%, down from 92% last March. At the same time, an all-time high 16% of Republicans disapprove. This shift can be attributed, at least in part, to declining support among non-MAGA Republicans, as approval dropped 11 points in the last year among this group (70% in March 2025 to 59% today). Virtually all MAGA Republicans continue to approve of Trump, with 98% approving a year ago and 97% now. > https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-oppose-action-iran-give-u-s-military-positive-marks https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-oppose...