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The affiliate information shows that it the website shows mostly / only affiliate offers, and omits (intentionally?) much better a lternatives like posteo.de for email. Listed vendors like OVHcloud must follow the US cloud act, so not really independent from US. Just advertising, no real privacy focused.

reconnecting 6mo ago
Domain is registered 23 March 2026. This is not a real product, with zero effort put into it.
- Angostura 6mo ago
  Perhaps they spent considerable effort putting the data set etc together, and subsequently decided to launch as a standalone domain. I wouldn’t take registration date as the final arbiter of seriousness
- hk__2 6mo ago
  The domain registration date doesn’t tell anything about the amount of effort put in it. I usually register the domains of my side-projects only when I’m at 80% done; otherwise I would buy dozens of domains I would never use.
  - stingraycharles 6mo ago
    The website uses Cloudflare for hosting. If they were just even a little bit serious, they wouldn’t have used a US provider for hosting.
    - xixixao 6mo ago
      If you were just a little bit serious you wouldn’t be discussing this on a site run by Y-Combinator! (the “angry” comments are so tiring)
      - efilife 6mo ago
        But he doesn't advocate for US alternatives here?
      - iainmerrick 6mo ago
        They’re pointing out the hypocrisy in this website. The comment itself isn’t hypocritical as they haven’t taken a stance on US versus EU services.
        bee_rider 6mo ago
        They didn’t explicitly point to hypocrisy as the thing that makes it “unserious.” Actually I think a lot of serious projects are a little bit hypocritical, a little bit of hypocrisy is often the cost of contact with reality. In this case it isn’t even clear where the hypocrisy comes from, though. It’s a service for looking up other services. Does it even handle any PII?
    - tuukkah 6mo ago
      If you want to help orgs who have come to the conclusion they need to diversify to EU services, it does not mean you have to have come to the same conclusion! Also, it's not the same kind of dependency if you get or buy something one-off from a website like this, as if you build your org on top of a single platform/jurisdiction.
    - hk__2 6mo ago
      Sure, but I was not talking about that.
  - reconnecting 6mo ago
    The domain registration in this context is just proof that the website doesn't have any community value. As for the amount of effort, I took a look at the HTML source of the page, and it looks like the person who released it doesn't really understand the technology he uses, even on a website level. My opinion is therefore that this amount of effort is not nearly enough to hold our discussion here.
fixer99 6mo ago
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kiyundai 6mo ago
OVHcloud US is a separate entity, European & other region are not subject to the US cloud act. You need separate account for service in US vs services in EU
MidnightRider39 6mo ago
Posteo is really good - switched there years ago from gmail and never looked back.
- xigoi 6mo ago
  Posteo does not allow custom domains, which is an immediate nope from me. E-mail is the last place where I want vendor lock-in.
  - MidnightRider39 6mo ago
    I use my custom email address and forward to posteo, for me there is little to no lock-in; I could go to another service tomorrow and wouldn’t have to change anything
    - xigoi 6mo ago
      Doesn’t that require a different e-mail service, which defeats the point of using Posteo?
- unnervingduck 6mo ago
  I was looking into Posteo a while back but was turned off by the recycling of addresses. After leaving the service it's available to anyone after a fixed time.
PurpleRamen 6mo ago
Maybe it was added in the meanwhile, but I see Posteo under email. Also, disputable if Posteo is really better, as it highly depend on your requirements. I dismissed it for some reason when choosing and went with mailbox.org, which is also listed. The information is also not stating that all links are affiliate, just that the site does contain them and some might make them money.
deaux 6mo ago
This post needs to be flagged, this is pure affiliate spam and not at all what HN is meant for. Doubt the guy is even European at this point. An email @ dang wouldn't be out of place either for anyone with the time.
shevy-java 6mo ago
Good point. Nonetheless alternatives are needed.
raincole 6mo ago
A 3 hour old HN account btw.
smoyer 6mo ago
If this site actually provided privacy-preserving recommendations, there are many of us in the U.S. who would (or should?) also be interested in these services. Sadly, this is SPAM.
yreg 6mo ago
I found it super suspicious that this post has raised to the very top of the frontpage when it was posted. Not sure if baseless accusations of vote manipulation are ok here though, so I didn't comment on it.

reconnecting 6mo ago

Domain is registered 23 March 2026. This is not a real product, with zero effort put into it.

Angostura 6mo ago
Perhaps they spent considerable effort putting the data set etc together, and subsequently decided to launch as a standalone domain. I wouldn’t take registration date as the final arbiter of seriousness
hk__2 6mo ago
The domain registration date doesn’t tell anything about the amount of effort put in it. I usually register the domains of my side-projects only when I’m at 80% done; otherwise I would buy dozens of domains I would never use.
- stingraycharles 6mo ago
  The website uses Cloudflare for hosting. If they were just even a little bit serious, they wouldn’t have used a US provider for hosting.
  - xixixao 6mo ago
    If you were just a little bit serious you wouldn’t be discussing this on a site run by Y-Combinator! (the “angry” comments are so tiring)
    - efilife 6mo ago
      But he doesn't advocate for US alternatives here?
    - iainmerrick 6mo ago
      They’re pointing out the hypocrisy in this website. The comment itself isn’t hypocritical as they haven’t taken a stance on US versus EU services.
      - bee_rider 6mo ago
        They didn’t explicitly point to hypocrisy as the thing that makes it “unserious.” Actually I think a lot of serious projects are a little bit hypocritical, a little bit of hypocrisy is often the cost of contact with reality. In this case it isn’t even clear where the hypocrisy comes from, though. It’s a service for looking up other services. Does it even handle any PII?
  - tuukkah 6mo ago
    If you want to help orgs who have come to the conclusion they need to diversify to EU services, it does not mean you have to have come to the same conclusion! Also, it's not the same kind of dependency if you get or buy something one-off from a website like this, as if you build your org on top of a single platform/jurisdiction.
  - hk__2 6mo ago
    Sure, but I was not talking about that.
- reconnecting 6mo ago
  The domain registration in this context is just proof that the website doesn't have any community value. As for the amount of effort, I took a look at the HTML source of the page, and it looks like the person who released it doesn't really understand the technology he uses, even on a website level. My opinion is therefore that this amount of effort is not nearly enough to hold our discussion here.

fixer99 6mo ago

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kiyundai 6mo ago

OVHcloud US is a separate entity, European & other region are not subject to the US cloud act. You need separate account for service in US vs services in EU

MidnightRider39 6mo ago

Posteo is really good - switched there years ago from gmail and never looked back.

xigoi 6mo ago
Posteo does not allow custom domains, which is an immediate nope from me. E-mail is the last place where I want vendor lock-in.
- MidnightRider39 6mo ago
  I use my custom email address and forward to posteo, for me there is little to no lock-in; I could go to another service tomorrow and wouldn’t have to change anything
  - xigoi 6mo ago
    Doesn’t that require a different e-mail service, which defeats the point of using Posteo?
unnervingduck 6mo ago
I was looking into Posteo a while back but was turned off by the recycling of addresses. After leaving the service it's available to anyone after a fixed time.

PurpleRamen 6mo ago

Maybe it was added in the meanwhile, but I see Posteo under email. Also, disputable if Posteo is really better, as it highly depend on your requirements. I dismissed it for some reason when choosing and went with mailbox.org, which is also listed. The information is also not stating that all links are affiliate, just that the site does contain them and some might make them money.

deaux 6mo ago

This post needs to be flagged, this is pure affiliate spam and not at all what HN is meant for. Doubt the guy is even European at this point. An email @ dang wouldn't be out of place either for anyone with the time.

shevy-java 6mo ago

Good point. Nonetheless alternatives are needed.

raincole 6mo ago

A 3 hour old HN account btw.

smoyer 6mo ago

If this site actually provided privacy-preserving recommendations, there are many of us in the U.S. who would (or should?) also be interested in these services. Sadly, this is SPAM.

yreg 6mo ago

I found it super suspicious that this post has raised to the very top of the frontpage when it was posted. Not sure if baseless accusations of vote manipulation are ok here though, so I didn't comment on it.