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So like... most b2c apps out there? I checked app privacy report for a few such apps I have installed and also got a very high proportion of third party domains
by gruez 7mo ago
So like... most b2c apps out there? I checked app privacy report for a few such apps I have installed and also got a very high proportion of third party domains. Maybe not as high as 77% but definitely above 50% (ie. more domains are third party than first party). The most surprising part here is them refusing to put correct info in the "data collected" section of the app store listing.
edit: they seemed to have updated the store listing, so the "data collected" section is correct.
- iterateoften 7mo agoA government app being built like b2c is exactly the problem
- gruez 7mo agoI'm sure that HN's preferred app would be <5MB, and has zero third party SDKs or telemetry, but half a dozen SDKs and third party domains is basically most mass market apps these days. Is it bad? Yes, but the whitehouse isn't being egregiously bad, but "whitehouse app is bad, just like most other apps" isn't going to get clicks.
- abustamam 7mo ago"everything else sucks too" is not a great defense for the US govt.
- charcircuit 7mo agoJust because an app embeds YouTube instead of creating their own video hosting solution that does not mean that does not mean that the app sucks.
- abustamam 7mo agoI didn't mention anything about YouTube.
- charcircuit 7mo agoThis thread is about how there are too many requests to third parties for the app. Half of them are for YouTube.
- abustamam 7mo agoEven if we eliminate the YouTube half it's still too many.
- gruez 7mo agoIf only. It would be a far better state of of affairs if the US government sucks like every other first world country. No other first country are waging war in the middle east, having paramilitary forces terrorize residents, or are undergoing a partial government shutdown.
- aplummer 7mo agoSee gov.uk for a good example
- ozlikethewizard 7mo agoFor all our faults I am geniunely impressed by gov.uk. its not pretty, its not particularly fast, and its certainly not flashly, but I've never once not been able to find what I needed or have a flow not work.
- SV_BubbleTime 7mo agoOh, sorry you missed Exlir and WASM, and rust and programming socks of course. Half credit.
- tr_user 7mo ago[flagged]
- jmalicki 7mo agoThe government should outsource way more of their traffic to third parties than a business should, since the government is inefficient, right?
- amazingman 7mo agoPoe's Law strikes again. I legitimately can't tell if this is sarcasm.
- jmalicki 7mo agoIt is sarcasm. I always get screwed by Poe's law, since dry sarcastic parodies of extremist views is one of my favorite methodologies for producing humor.
- gruez 7mo agoNo. Stop putting words in my mouth.
- mattbuilds 7mo agoNo one put words in your mouth, they asked you a question. You are the one who made the initial comparison to B2C apps, so it seems like a fair question to me. Your comment implies that its standard and the app isn't doing anything out of the ordinary when I think most people would except an official government app to be held to a higher standard than the average B2C app.
- gruez 7mo ago>You are the one who made the initial comparison to B2C apps, so it seems like a fair question to me. The relevant part of B2C is the 2C part, not the B. Mass market apps are generally ridden with telemetry and SDKs. Moreover I'm not sure how you think it's a "fair question" to go from a remark about how other apps are equally bad, to thinking I want the US government to operate as a business. It's like doing: A: "I called the IRS and was put on hold for 2 hours, can you believe that?" B: "To be fair that's the experience calling into most businesses, like banks or the cable company" A: "Wow so you think we should be running the IRS like a bank?" >I think most people would except an official government app to be held to a higher standard than the average B2C app. Is this a "yes, in an ideal world that's how things should be" type of statement, or are you claiming "yes, government agencies have a track record of delivering technical excellence on software projects, and this particular project was especially bad"? The former is basically a meaningless platitude, and I don't think anyone seriously thinks the latter is true.
- refulgentis 7mo agoRight, the White House is collecting data and sending it to Huawei, and overall collection rate is worse than any other app you’ve seen by a wide margin. That makes me net more surprised after reading your comment. You're not surprised the white house is worse than any other app you've seen by 20%?
- dwattttt 7mo agoI'm happy to be against both the white houses' 3rd party telemetry as well as other apps. I can multitask.
- longislandguido 7mo ago[flagged]