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I don't get that "Strait" discussion. Where does the Strait begin and end? If somehow the US Navy "opens" the Strait, what stops Iran to attack every ship movin

I don't get that "Strait" discussion. Where does the Strait begin and end? If somehow the US Navy "opens" the Strait, what stops Iran to attack every ship moving in the direction of the Strait? Where does the "protection zone" start and end?

j_maffe 6mo ago
at a range where short-range anti-ship missiles can reach ships from Iranian territory.
- marcosdumay 6mo ago
  So, the entire gulf? Actual short-range weapons can't cross the strait. The ones that can don't care much about the difference on the rest of the place.
- Terr_ 6mo ago
  And boats, amd submerged drones, and mines...
- angry_octet 6mo ago
  Not even short range. With a sensor feed from an ally they can project into the Gulf of Oman, and via Yemen the entire BaM. Doubtful China would provide that because they want oil, but likely Russia would, because they want high oil prices and American humiliation.
thebeardredis 6mo ago
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JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
> Where does the Strait begin and end? Practically speaking, the Musandam Peninsula [1]. Open that to the sea and you make everyone except Iraq and Kuwait happy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musandam_Peninsula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musandam_Peninsula
- angry_octet 6mo ago
  Much further than that. At least 200nm using drone ISR to cue Shaheeds, 500nm with satellite ISR. (With a 90kg warhead.) There are also many fishing vessels in the region, originating from a number of countries (e.g. Oman, Iran, Pakistan) which can report sightings of VLCCs. Once you have sighted the ship it is an undergrad project to implement target classification and recognition using off the shelf algorithms. It doesn't need a fast GPU because naval engagements are very slow, a cheap mobile phone can do it.
  - JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
    Is a no-fishing-boat zone feasible? Like a no-fly zone? Or do you need a partner to pot innocent fishermen?
    - angry_octet 6mo ago
      How many innocent fishermen are you willing to murder? And of course, the famine in Balochistan that would follow. Maybe not a great idea if you want an uprising of the Balochi against the Persians. Oman is a regional ally, but they would not stand idly by while their citizens are killed.
cosmicgadget 6mo ago
That's exactly why the tanker escort promises were quickly abandoned.

j_maffe 6mo ago

at a range where short-range anti-ship missiles can reach ships from Iranian territory.

marcosdumay 6mo ago
So, the entire gulf? Actual short-range weapons can't cross the strait. The ones that can don't care much about the difference on the rest of the place.
Terr_ 6mo ago
And boats, amd submerged drones, and mines...
angry_octet 6mo ago
Not even short range. With a sensor feed from an ally they can project into the Gulf of Oman, and via Yemen the entire BaM. Doubtful China would provide that because they want oil, but likely Russia would, because they want high oil prices and American humiliation.

thebeardredis 6mo ago

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JumpCrisscross 6mo ago

> Where does the Strait begin and end? Practically speaking, the Musandam Peninsula [1]. Open that to the sea and you make everyone except Iraq and Kuwait happy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musandam_Peninsula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musandam_Peninsula

angry_octet 6mo ago
Much further than that. At least 200nm using drone ISR to cue Shaheeds, 500nm with satellite ISR. (With a 90kg warhead.) There are also many fishing vessels in the region, originating from a number of countries (e.g. Oman, Iran, Pakistan) which can report sightings of VLCCs. Once you have sighted the ship it is an undergrad project to implement target classification and recognition using off the shelf algorithms. It doesn't need a fast GPU because naval engagements are very slow, a cheap mobile phone can do it.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago
  Is a no-fishing-boat zone feasible? Like a no-fly zone? Or do you need a partner to pot innocent fishermen?
  - angry_octet 6mo ago
    How many innocent fishermen are you willing to murder? And of course, the famine in Balochistan that would follow. Maybe not a great idea if you want an uprising of the Balochi against the Persians. Oman is a regional ally, but they would not stand idly by while their citizens are killed.

cosmicgadget 6mo ago

That's exactly why the tanker escort promises were quickly abandoned.