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nixpulvis 7mo ago
This is a serious problem with the fact that it's nearly impossible to understand what a "token" is and how to tame their use in a principled way. It's like if cars didn't advertise MPG, but instead something that could change randomly.
- uoaei 7mo ago
  Like if cars measured fuel efficiency or range using the knobs in the tread on your tire.
- amitprasad 7mo ago
  Relevant post: https://modal.com/blog/dollars-per-token-considered-harmful https://modal.com/blog/dollars-per-token-considered-harmful (disclaimer: I work with the author)
  - nixpulvis 7mo ago
    I completely agree that requests are what should be charged for. But I think there are two things, given that requests aren't all going to cost the same amount: 1. Estimate free invoicing the requests and letting users figure it out after the fact. 2. Somehow estimating cost and telling users how much a request will cost. We have 1, we want 2.
- clawfund 7mo ago
  [flagged]
  - sebmellen 7mo ago
    Please do not bot HN.
- claw-el 7mo ago
  Also, certain models are more verbose than the others. We are basically at the mercy of a model who likes to ramble a lot.
  - konfusinomicon 7mo ago
    im fiarly certain the knob on the machine that controls length of redundant comments and docblocks is cranked to 11. it makes me curious how much of their bottom line is driven by redundant comment output.
- smohare 7mo ago
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onemoresoop 7mo ago
That explains things. Im getting this: API Error: 400 {"error":{"message":"Budget has been exceeded! Current cost: 271.29866200000015, Max budget: 200.0","type":"budget_exceeded","param":null,"code":"400"}} So I completetly ran out of tokens and haven’t even used it at all for the past couple of days, and last week my usage was very light. Let me scratch that, all my usage has been very light since I got this plan at work. It’s a an enterprise subscription I believe, hard to tell since it doesn’t connect directly to Anthropic, rather it goes through a proxy on Azure. Im not liking this at all and all, so flaky and opaque. Not possible to get a breakdown on what the usage went on, right? Do we have to contact Anthropic for a refund or will they restore the bogus usage?
prodigycorp 7mo ago
Anthropic really needs to opensource claude code. One of the biggest turnoffs as a claude code user is the CC community cargo culting the subreddit because community outreach is otherwise poor.
- landr0id 7mo ago
  Looks like your wish was accidentally granted :)
  - prodigycorp 7mo ago
    Hilarious. Makes you hope CC team sticks to it, so much goodwill to be had by doing so.

nixpulvis 7mo ago

This is a serious problem with the fact that it's nearly impossible to understand what a "token" is and how to tame their use in a principled way. It's like if cars didn't advertise MPG, but instead something that could change randomly.

uoaei 7mo ago
Like if cars measured fuel efficiency or range using the knobs in the tread on your tire.
amitprasad 7mo ago
Relevant post: https://modal.com/blog/dollars-per-token-considered-harmful https://modal.com/blog/dollars-per-token-considered-harmful (disclaimer: I work with the author)
- nixpulvis 7mo ago
  I completely agree that requests are what should be charged for. But I think there are two things, given that requests aren't all going to cost the same amount: 1. Estimate free invoicing the requests and letting users figure it out after the fact. 2. Somehow estimating cost and telling users how much a request will cost. We have 1, we want 2.
clawfund 7mo ago
[flagged]
- sebmellen 7mo ago
  Please do not bot HN.
claw-el 7mo ago
Also, certain models are more verbose than the others. We are basically at the mercy of a model who likes to ramble a lot.
- konfusinomicon 7mo ago
  im fiarly certain the knob on the machine that controls length of redundant comments and docblocks is cranked to 11. it makes me curious how much of their bottom line is driven by redundant comment output.
smohare 7mo ago
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onemoresoop 7mo ago

That explains things. Im getting this: API Error: 400 {"error":{"message":"Budget has been exceeded! Current cost: 271.29866200000015, Max budget: 200.0","type":"budget_exceeded","param":null,"code":"400"}} So I completetly ran out of tokens and haven’t even used it at all for the past couple of days, and last week my usage was very light. Let me scratch that, all my usage has been very light since I got this plan at work. It’s a an enterprise subscription I believe, hard to tell since it doesn’t connect directly to Anthropic, rather it goes through a proxy on Azure. Im not liking this at all and all, so flaky and opaque. Not possible to get a breakdown on what the usage went on, right? Do we have to contact Anthropic for a refund or will they restore the bogus usage?

prodigycorp 7mo ago

Anthropic really needs to opensource claude code. One of the biggest turnoffs as a claude code user is the CC community cargo culting the subreddit because community outreach is otherwise poor.

landr0id 7mo ago
Looks like your wish was accidentally granted :)
- prodigycorp 7mo ago
  Hilarious. Makes you hope CC team sticks to it, so much goodwill to be had by doing so.