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> I don't know if Raycast team even knows about this. I'm part of Raycast, we didn't know about it, learnt about it here

tyleo 6mo ago
I haven’t clicked through so all I know about Raycast is, “that’s the company that gets shoved into ads by copilot.” Sounds like it’s not your fault but it’s probably doing some brand damage :/
- delfinom 6mo ago
  They should probably get a lawyer to send a C&D.
  - buildbot 6mo ago
    There’s like 100 comments blaming raycast, they should just sue for damages lol.
    - grayhatter 6mo ago
      Had I not seen this thread, I would have assumed they consented to it, and I'd never willingly interact with Raycast or it's team in any way. I still have a somewhat negative opinion, so I think it's safe to say there are damages.
    - tylerchilds 6mo ago
      As a data point, I consent to be counted as associating raycast with the Microsoft brand and viewing them negatively as a consequence of using pull requests as an advertising canvas.
    - altairprime 6mo ago
      They should sue to have the ads removed from the texts they were inserted into, which is a vastly more difficult problem than simply paying some dollars.
  - BloondAndDoom 6mo ago
    I hear you, but honestly it’s kind of funny to think a company would send C&D to stop free advertising for them. I’d be surprising to see if any company ever does that, whatever the people think small brands worth they actually worth way less than that.
    - Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago
      Is it free advertising or free brand damage? (people might think that raycast had consented to this) but as we know from this thread, Raycast didn't consent to this. It might be interesting to see what a lawyer might think of this and if there are enough reasonable claims to genuinely sue for damages (Raycast definitely seek a lawyer privately, just in case)
      - huflungdung 6mo ago
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- joeevans1000 6mo ago
  Well... I didn't know about them until now. Looks like a cool product, actually. Might have to try them out. What's that old saying?
- theshrike79 6mo ago
  Raycast is like Alfred, but with MORE AI. Which made me go 'ugh' even before this. Automatic AI ads on it didn't help. But the team member saying they had no involvement in this brought my opinion of Raycast from 'ewwwwww' back to 'ugh'.
jarek83 6mo ago
Maybe check if you are charged for it
- butterlesstoast 6mo ago
  If it’s Microsoft related, might be something in your Partner Center.
ncr100 6mo ago
Creepy. Looks like they rolled it back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233 Collection of my thoughts which don't really get to a point: - Microsoft owns GitHub, where Raycast is being mentioned thousands of times by their tooling. - Microsoft is a modern popularizer of the infamous phrase, embrace extend extinguish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... - Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor.... - From an empathetic perspective I hope for the sake of the customers of raycast and for its employees that Microsoft is not into any kind of negotiations with Raycast at the moment.
- BugsJustFindMe 6mo ago
  > Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.
  - burkaman 6mo ago
    One of those people is the CEO though.
  - deleted 6mo ago
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  - rchaud 6mo ago
    The Microsoft that was prosecuted for monopoly behaviour 25 years ago is definitely not the same Microsoft that owns: - Github - LinkedIn - Activision Blizzard - Xbox - Azure, Sharepoint and Teams w/Copilot embedded everywhere - major stake in OpenAI - a multibillion dollar ad product portfolio (LinkedIn ads, Bing Ads)
    - TheScaryOne 6mo ago
      After being told to not integrate Internet Explorer into the OS, they changed the name to EDGE and did it anyway? With the added excuse that it now compromises most of the file explorer functionality, too?

tyleo 6mo ago

I haven’t clicked through so all I know about Raycast is, “that’s the company that gets shoved into ads by copilot.” Sounds like it’s not your fault but it’s probably doing some brand damage :/

delfinom 6mo ago
They should probably get a lawyer to send a C&D.
- buildbot 6mo ago
  There’s like 100 comments blaming raycast, they should just sue for damages lol.
  - grayhatter 6mo ago
    Had I not seen this thread, I would have assumed they consented to it, and I'd never willingly interact with Raycast or it's team in any way. I still have a somewhat negative opinion, so I think it's safe to say there are damages.
  - tylerchilds 6mo ago
    As a data point, I consent to be counted as associating raycast with the Microsoft brand and viewing them negatively as a consequence of using pull requests as an advertising canvas.
  - altairprime 6mo ago
    They should sue to have the ads removed from the texts they were inserted into, which is a vastly more difficult problem than simply paying some dollars.
- BloondAndDoom 6mo ago
  I hear you, but honestly it’s kind of funny to think a company would send C&D to stop free advertising for them. I’d be surprising to see if any company ever does that, whatever the people think small brands worth they actually worth way less than that.
  - Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago
    Is it free advertising or free brand damage? (people might think that raycast had consented to this) but as we know from this thread, Raycast didn't consent to this. It might be interesting to see what a lawyer might think of this and if there are enough reasonable claims to genuinely sue for damages (Raycast definitely seek a lawyer privately, just in case)
    - huflungdung 6mo ago
      [dead]
joeevans1000 6mo ago
Well... I didn't know about them until now. Looks like a cool product, actually. Might have to try them out. What's that old saying?
theshrike79 6mo ago
Raycast is like Alfred, but with MORE AI. Which made me go 'ugh' even before this. Automatic AI ads on it didn't help. But the team member saying they had no involvement in this brought my opinion of Raycast from 'ewwwwww' back to 'ugh'.

jarek83 6mo ago

Maybe check if you are charged for it

butterlesstoast 6mo ago
If it’s Microsoft related, might be something in your Partner Center.

ncr100 6mo ago

Creepy. Looks like they rolled it back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233 Collection of my thoughts which don't really get to a point: - Microsoft owns GitHub, where Raycast is being mentioned thousands of times by their tooling. - Microsoft is a modern popularizer of the infamous phrase, embrace extend extinguish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... - Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor.... - From an empathetic perspective I hope for the sake of the customers of raycast and for its employees that Microsoft is not into any kind of negotiations with Raycast at the moment.

BugsJustFindMe 6mo ago
> Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.
- burkaman 6mo ago
  One of those people is the CEO though.
- deleted 6mo ago
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- rchaud 6mo ago
  The Microsoft that was prosecuted for monopoly behaviour 25 years ago is definitely not the same Microsoft that owns: - Github - LinkedIn - Activision Blizzard - Xbox - Azure, Sharepoint and Teams w/Copilot embedded everywhere - major stake in OpenAI - a multibillion dollar ad product portfolio (LinkedIn ads, Bing Ads)
  - TheScaryOne 6mo ago
    After being told to not integrate Internet Explorer into the OS, they changed the name to EDGE and did it anyway? With the added excuse that it now compromises most of the file explorer functionality, too?