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Unfortunately the name Glassfish has been pretty tainted by now. If you say your platform is based on Glassfish they'll automatically assume you're an old donke

by sgt 7mo ago

Unfortunately the name Glassfish has been pretty tainted by now. If you say your platform is based on Glassfish they'll automatically assume you're an old donkey not up to date on latest Java technologies like Spring Boot.

Cthulhu_ 7mo ago
I love the irony / (perceived) sarcasm in your comment, :p.
ondromih 7mo ago
That's what the article is trying to deflect, isn't it? Many people rely on vibes from the past instead of updating their knowledge with the current info. It's true that some companies in the past attempted to taint GlassFish to promote their alternative products. And there was nobody to defend GlassFish and keep it up to date. This is different now, with GlassFish at the Eclipse Foundation, the OmniFish company behind it and providing enterprise guarantees, and GlassFish itself modernizing with fast startup, runnable JAR, support for latest Java and Jakarta EE, Jakarta Data and NoSQL databases.
- sgt 7mo ago
  Fair enough. If OmniFish can properly support it and help it continuously develop it will have potential for adoption by even those using Spring.
reactordev 7mo ago
>”latest Java technologies like Spring Boot.” Which are already old enough to drive… latest my ass.
- sgt 7mo ago
  I hear you, but there's genuine excitement still about Spring Boot and related technologies. See [1] Spring Cloud. [1]https://spring.io/projects/spring-cloud https://spring.io/projects/spring-cloud
  - reactordev 7mo ago
    Excitement is hardly the term I would use… it’s also old. It’s also outdated. Spring is done without corporate sponsorship or leadership. It died during the pivotal/vmware/handoff days.
    - sgt 7mo ago
      In your opinion, is there a better option than Spring Boot right now in the Java ecosystem? For what it does, at least. I know there are a lot of libraries and frameworks out there but not all are as complete as Spring Boot.
      - reactordev 7mo ago
        Ugh, I’d rather use Micronauts or Quarkus than Spring… but enjoy your AutoWiredBeanPreProcessorBeanInterface.
  - unscaled 7mo ago
    I remember all the excitement about Spring Cloud... But that was back in 2017. I never thought of Spring (or Spring Boot) as good technology, but even for the right audience Spring boot is as exciting as React is exciting for frontend developers or C is exciting for kernel developers. It's a pretty established technology that was new and cool at one point and has just become commonplace and boring for better or worse (I would argue worse, but that's just me).
- kdazzle 7mo ago
  Oh, I assumed that was a joke. I’ll have to check my privilege
mono442 7mo ago
spring boot is almost as terrible as java ee if not even worse

by sgt 7mo ago

Cthulhu_ 7mo ago

I love the irony / (perceived) sarcasm in your comment, :p.

ondromih 7mo ago

That's what the article is trying to deflect, isn't it? Many people rely on vibes from the past instead of updating their knowledge with the current info. It's true that some companies in the past attempted to taint GlassFish to promote their alternative products. And there was nobody to defend GlassFish and keep it up to date. This is different now, with GlassFish at the Eclipse Foundation, the OmniFish company behind it and providing enterprise guarantees, and GlassFish itself modernizing with fast startup, runnable JAR, support for latest Java and Jakarta EE, Jakarta Data and NoSQL databases.

sgt 7mo ago
Fair enough. If OmniFish can properly support it and help it continuously develop it will have potential for adoption by even those using Spring.

reactordev 7mo ago

>”latest Java technologies like Spring Boot.” Which are already old enough to drive… latest my ass.

sgt 7mo ago
I hear you, but there's genuine excitement still about Spring Boot and related technologies. See [1] Spring Cloud. [1]https://spring.io/projects/spring-cloud https://spring.io/projects/spring-cloud
- reactordev 7mo ago
  Excitement is hardly the term I would use… it’s also old. It’s also outdated. Spring is done without corporate sponsorship or leadership. It died during the pivotal/vmware/handoff days.
  - sgt 7mo ago
    In your opinion, is there a better option than Spring Boot right now in the Java ecosystem? For what it does, at least. I know there are a lot of libraries and frameworks out there but not all are as complete as Spring Boot.
    - reactordev 7mo ago
      Ugh, I’d rather use Micronauts or Quarkus than Spring… but enjoy your AutoWiredBeanPreProcessorBeanInterface.
- unscaled 7mo ago
  I remember all the excitement about Spring Cloud... But that was back in 2017. I never thought of Spring (or Spring Boot) as good technology, but even for the right audience Spring boot is as exciting as React is exciting for frontend developers or C is exciting for kernel developers. It's a pretty established technology that was new and cool at one point and has just become commonplace and boring for better or worse (I would argue worse, but that's just me).
kdazzle 7mo ago
Oh, I assumed that was a joke. I’ll have to check my privilege

mono442 7mo ago

spring boot is almost as terrible as java ee if not even worse