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Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustai

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

kev009 7mo ago
Did you read the same article as me? The word is singularly used in the context of how do you earn money as a project, i.e. sustain the effort. It's a bit of a leap to imply this is impure unless they made some contract stating the opposite or are doing something dark.
- renewiltord 7mo ago
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HDBaseT 7mo ago
You can however of course swap out the default Search Engine with Google or whatever privacy focused replacement (e.g. DuckDuckGo, Kagi, etc).
chii 7mo ago
You either die an open source project, or live long enough to see yourself become ad-driven in the name of sustainability. Firefox has already done so to google, and when a fork is big enough, they certainly will hear the siren's call.
- renewiltord 7mo ago
  You’re right 100% The guy literally sold his browser to an online advertising company and then bought it back. Why do you think startpage is the default? Look up the online advertising company that owns it and then look up who he sold the browser to before taking it back.
ThrowawayTestr 7mo ago
Have you ever sent a donation to Alex?
- renewiltord 7mo ago
  Why would I donate to someone who is willing to sell my attention?
  - pedrogpimenta 7mo ago
    Did you do it before they did so?
    - renewiltord 7mo ago
      Looks like I judged them well in not doing so. I would have been such a sucker. After all, donating to corporations is for bootlickers. https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/ https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/ So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys. He literally sold it to an online advertising company lol. EDIT: haha, the best defence of this guy you guys can muster is "If you don't pay me, I'll sell your data to online advertising companies" and that this is some kind of good thing.
      - ThrowawayTestr 7mo ago
        Maybe if you donated some money he wouldn't have had to.
      - akoboldfrying 7mo ago
        I'm impressed by how thoroughly you ignored the question of whether your own inaction was partly responsible for the outcome that occurred later, and which you dislike. It has persuaded me that your own inaction was totally unrelated to this outcome.
      - pedrogpimenta 7mo ago
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sersi 7mo ago
I mean first thing I do in any browser is change the search engine so it's not like it affects me in any way. I don't expect opensource projects to never make deals that give them some money, I just want them to be fully transparent when they do. Waterfox is transparent and clearly states who and how they sell their user data to.

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

kev009 7mo ago

Did you read the same article as me? The word is singularly used in the context of how do you earn money as a project, i.e. sustain the effort. It's a bit of a leap to imply this is impure unless they made some contract stating the opposite or are doing something dark.

renewiltord 7mo ago
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HDBaseT 7mo ago

You can however of course swap out the default Search Engine with Google or whatever privacy focused replacement (e.g. DuckDuckGo, Kagi, etc).

chii 7mo ago

You either die an open source project, or live long enough to see yourself become ad-driven in the name of sustainability. Firefox has already done so to google, and when a fork is big enough, they certainly will hear the siren's call.

renewiltord 7mo ago
You’re right 100% The guy literally sold his browser to an online advertising company and then bought it back. Why do you think startpage is the default? Look up the online advertising company that owns it and then look up who he sold the browser to before taking it back.

ThrowawayTestr 7mo ago

Have you ever sent a donation to Alex?

renewiltord 7mo ago
Why would I donate to someone who is willing to sell my attention?
- pedrogpimenta 7mo ago
  Did you do it before they did so?
  - renewiltord 7mo ago
    Looks like I judged them well in not doing so. I would have been such a sucker. After all, donating to corporations is for bootlickers. https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/ https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/ So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys. He literally sold it to an online advertising company lol. EDIT: haha, the best defence of this guy you guys can muster is "If you don't pay me, I'll sell your data to online advertising companies" and that this is some kind of good thing.
    - ThrowawayTestr 7mo ago
      Maybe if you donated some money he wouldn't have had to.
    - akoboldfrying 7mo ago
      I'm impressed by how thoroughly you ignored the question of whether your own inaction was partly responsible for the outcome that occurred later, and which you dislike. It has persuaded me that your own inaction was totally unrelated to this outcome.
    - pedrogpimenta 7mo ago

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sersi 7mo ago

I mean first thing I do in any browser is change the search engine so it's not like it affects me in any way. I don't expect opensource projects to never make deals that give them some money, I just want them to be fully transparent when they do. Waterfox is transparent and clearly states who and how they sell their user data to.