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From the last few paragraphs: > There is an official way for travelers to bypass long TSA waits if they’re willing to spend: hiring concierge services to escor
by oefrha 7mo ago
From the last few paragraphs:
> There is an official way for travelers to bypass long TSA waits if they’re willing to spend: hiring concierge services to escort them through security.
> Perq Soleil is an airport arrival and departure assistance service that can help travelers through TSA in about a minute flat by accessing alternative lines usually reserved for airport staff and airline personnel. The company — which operates in more than 300 airports and 150 countries — charges a base rate that varies by location.
Talk about burying the lede. Apparently the airports “highly discourage” line-sitters, but if you use services that pre-bribed airports you can skip the lines entirely.
- PearlRiver 7mo agoThe people arriving on private jets have always bypassed these bureaucratic procedures. Brotherhood and equality.
- hammock 7mo agoWhy should private plane passengers be subject to TSA? TSA (paid for by you and me by the way, not for free) exists to protect the public from harm, on public flights by common carriers. It used to be contracted by airlines themselves. Unless you are the most extreme of pro-seatbelt law people, it would make little sense for TSA to screen anyone on a private plane manifest unless the client asked them to.
- kacesensitive 7mo ago[dead]
- AzN1337c0d3r 7mo agoWere you born after 2001? Did you remember those planes that flew into the buildings? Private planes can do the same thing.
- kgermino 7mo agoAnd the TSA wouldn’t do anything to stop that Hell the TSA doesn’t do much to prevent that on commercial flights, but requiring private flights to start going through commercial security would be completely pointless
- joquarky 7mo agoInconveniencing wealthy people might create motivation to fix the problem.
- caminante 7mo agoDoesn't work. If TSA were added, there still wouldn't be any lines at private terminals.
- ranger_danger 7mo agoEven if you're flying commercial, wealthy people can just pay Perq Soleil $250 a pop to waltz them through the employee line with no wait.
- frankbreetz 7mo agoThe TSA was created because a plane crashed into a building. Private planes can crash into buildings. Why should they be exempt from TSA checks?
- hammock 7mo agoLots of things can crash into buildings. Should they all be screened by TSA? Drones and their operators prior to every launch? 30 minute helicopter tours and high-rise HVAC drop offs? Private satellites? Or is licensing and registration (of pilots and aircraft and manifest and flight plan) enough?
- jdiff 7mo agoCommercial drones can't bring down buildings. And they're still subject to an awful lot of regulations.
- hammock 7mo agoSo it’s complete building destruction that is the protective mission here? Not loss of life or general terrorism or something else? I’m glad we are clarifying I wasn’t aware that DJI drone with 60lb payload was subject to more regulations than a Citation leaving TEB but I guess I’m open to learning what those are.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 7mo ago
- Simulacra 7mo agoThis reminds me of when Steve Job's had his ninja throwing stars confiscated by (airport security) getting on his private jet. Edited to clarify NOT TSA
- tempodox 7mo agoThe danger of Steve Jobs hijacking his own private plane was obviously quite high! We can only thank the dutiful TSA officers for their brave service. I’m sure they risked their lives averting this danger. Have they been awarded any medals yet?
- Simulacra 7mo agohttps://techland.time.com/2010/09/14/steve-jobs-vows-to-never-visit-japan-again-after-ninja-star-incident/ https://techland.time.com/2010/09/14/steve-jobs-vows-to-neve... For reference
- noman-land 7mo ago"Update: Apple called Techland saying that the story is “pure fiction.” According to the New York Post, Steve Jobs himself has told them the same."
- tempodox 7mo agoApparently I forgot the “/s” on my parent comment.
- AlotOfReading 7mo agoNo, the TSA exists because 19 people hijacked 4 flights and succeeded in crashing 3 of them into various important buildings in the US on 9/11/2001. Private planes are just as capable of crashing into buildings as commercial jets. The TSA has picked up some ancillary public safety functions over the years, but their raison d'etre is to prevent hijackings.
- schmookeeg 7mo agoIn terms of menace potential, any private plane will lose to a van full of fertilizer and a baddie intent on causing destruction. It's a matter of scale. Little planes, like this one [1] just don't do damage on the same scale as airliners. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack
- woodruffw 7mo agoMost private planes taking off from commercial airports (the ones where TSA generally operates) are much larger than a Piper Dakota. (But regardless, it’s not clear that the TSA is even performing that kind of calculus.)
- schmookeeg 7mo agoA G650 still loses to a motivated U-haul. :) No argument though, just saying it's a hard problem, and the scaling issue makes it somewhat awkward to deploy security resources in proportion to the threat. I don't have a solution. I'm not exactly thrilled with the current setup, but I try to stay quiet since I can't think of anything better.
- AlotOfReading 7mo agoGovernment building codes already anticipate the "van full of fertilizer" attack, as a result of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. Federal building security is a separate matter though, with its own agency called FPS that predates DHS and TSA by decades.
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- idiotsecant 7mo agoHN can always be counted on to have a good contingent of temporarily embarrassed billionaires ready to stick up for them at the slightest provocation.
- hammock 7mo agoYou don’t have to be a billionaire to fly out of an FBO and you don’t have to fly out of an FBO to be interested in freedom of movement. No Kings.
- SubmarineClub 7mo ago[flagged]
- gos9 7mo agoYeah let’s screen every kid and his 172 because rich people bad!
- Gud 7mo agoIt seems to me that the people flying private jets are the biggest threats to humanity.
- miki123211 7mo agoAs somebody who doesn't travel on private jets, I'm very, very happy that I'm not anywhere close to those people. Imagine the pandemonium that would ensue if Taylor Swift were to enter an airport terminal through the normal entrance.
- ryandrake 7mo agoIt's true equality: The rich and poor alike are allowed to fly on private jets or hire a departure assistance service!
- sysguest 7mo agowell jokes on you: if it was 17th century, we peasants wouldn't even be allowed to use that service