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None of this is an unsolvable problem. For example, terraced housing with on-street parking can support EVs by allowing homeowners to place cable ducts[0] insi

by crote 7mo ago

None of this is an unsolvable problem. For example, terraced housing with on-street parking can support EVs by allowing homeowners to place cable ducts[0] inside the sidewalk. With large apartment buildings you can incentivize (or even mandate) that whoever manages it supports installing shared chargers. With all other kinds of awkward publicly-owned spaces you can have the local government install shared chargers. The irony with it being an "expensive toy for the rich" is that EVs are significantly cheaper to operate than ICE. Especially with the upcoming new generation of cheap Chinese EVs, it would be quite possible to have the government offer a low-interest loan where the total monthly cost of car ownership stays the same - or is even lower. [0]: https://gul-e.co.uk/ https://gul-e.co.uk/, https://www.kerbocharge.com/ https://www.kerbocharge.com/

bostik 7mo ago
This is already happening. Near where I live there is a newly built 7-home terrace. Each one has both a garage and a cable duct sprouting up from the edge of sidewalk in front of them. (Coarse location: outer SE London.)
bluescrn 7mo ago
> With large apartment buildings you can incentivize (or even mandate) that whoever manages it supports installing shared chargers And then the the management company that controls the shared chargers can charge rates that are even higher than the vastly inflated costs at public chargers, as they know the users will pay for the convenience of charging at home :( This isn't the nice future we were promised, with clean electric cars and plentiful renewable energy. This is the future of late-stage capitalism and the enshittification of everything.
- gib444 7mo ago
  > This isn't the nice future we were promised, with clean electric cars and plentiful renewable energy. This is the future of late-stage capitalism and the enshittification of everything. /Exactly/ this! The UK is all about maximising rent extraction, enshittification of everything and profiteering.
- neal_jones 7mo ago
  I’d like to think governments would serve the interests of the people but in my experience it’s just been they serve the interests of the corporations. FYI I’ve only lived in the UK and the USA, both of which are living far below their potential
- crote 7mo ago
  > And then the the management company that controls the shared chargers can charge rates that are even higher than the vastly inflated costs at public chargers, as they know the users will pay for the convenience of charging at home :( Or just have sane laws requiring management to provide it at-cost? In my country the default is that the board of tenants is responsible for the management by themselves. Delegating all the boring stuff to a management company for a fee is definitely possible, but I don't think them charging a per-kWh premium is even allowed.

by crote 7mo ago

bostik 7mo ago

This is already happening. Near where I live there is a newly built 7-home terrace. Each one has both a garage and a cable duct sprouting up from the edge of sidewalk in front of them. (Coarse location: outer SE London.)

bluescrn 7mo ago

> With large apartment buildings you can incentivize (or even mandate) that whoever manages it supports installing shared chargers And then the the management company that controls the shared chargers can charge rates that are even higher than the vastly inflated costs at public chargers, as they know the users will pay for the convenience of charging at home :( This isn't the nice future we were promised, with clean electric cars and plentiful renewable energy. This is the future of late-stage capitalism and the enshittification of everything.

gib444 7mo ago
> This isn't the nice future we were promised, with clean electric cars and plentiful renewable energy. This is the future of late-stage capitalism and the enshittification of everything. /Exactly/ this! The UK is all about maximising rent extraction, enshittification of everything and profiteering.
neal_jones 7mo ago
I’d like to think governments would serve the interests of the people but in my experience it’s just been they serve the interests of the corporations. FYI I’ve only lived in the UK and the USA, both of which are living far below their potential
crote 7mo ago
> And then the the management company that controls the shared chargers can charge rates that are even higher than the vastly inflated costs at public chargers, as they know the users will pay for the convenience of charging at home :( Or just have sane laws requiring management to provide it at-cost? In my country the default is that the board of tenants is responsible for the management by themselves. Delegating all the boring stuff to a management company for a fee is definitely possible, but I don't think them charging a per-kWh premium is even allowed.