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This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that this should be talked about and discussed publicly. I will continue to re-post this. I just want to raise awareness and not let censorship win. This post is beyond political, its a humanitarian post. I hope I can convey that and I hope that the streisand effect plays a part here and people become well aware of this post. @dang, can you please prevent such posts from getting flagged? Unless there is a reason as to why these might get flagged from a hackernews moderation standpoint, it feel as if a blatant misuse of the abuse feature. Have a nice day.

JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
> genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link. Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. > post is beyond political, its a humanitarian post If it’s not political, it’s irrelevant. Gawking at humanitarian disaster isn’t a popular pass-time outside narrow bands of the internet. If you’re posting it to effect change, it is political. That’s fine. But I’m also sceptical why this would be expected to change the balance of views on the wars in the region. IDF and Hamas—the former, probably due to resources, at larger scale than the latter—being horrible to captives is well established. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
  > Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link This wasn't the case with the previous post that I mentioned yet it got flagged ? . Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. When the post had gotten flagged/ I had thought of giving another link like msn (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-from-israeli-custody-with-suspected-torture-wounds/ar-AA1ZwgqF https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-f...) and this is a bit more in-depth (https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palestinian-baby-released-from-israeli-jail-with-cigarette-burn-wounds/ar-AA1ZAh0B https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palesti...) But I found no articles as thorough as this one. I don't believe as to if anything is factually wrong Also oops, yea I had just the link of archive.org and not the proper link (https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...) I am editing this for that, thank you for suggesting this! Edit: I can't edit the hackernews post, I am a bit sorry then to hackernews community for just sharing the archive.org link but I had accidentally pasted just the archive link instead, a bit sorry about that, perhaps moderators (if they wish) can change to this particular link or if someone wants to read it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...
  - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
    > I found no articles as thorough as this one. I don't believe as to if anything is factually wrong Did a physician ever evaluate the child? And were the neighbours’ accounts that the child was unharmed when handed over by the father to the IDF independently verified? Torturing a toddler wouldn’t be out of character for the IDF right now. But just because something is believable doesn’t mean it’s true. The fact that nobody else is reporting on this should be cause for pause.
    - gibbitz 7mo ago
      Did you investigate it? If someone posted that Claude code created a new language that was typesafe and 50% more efficient for LLM coding and 20% faster for a human to review without any details about the language, would you not look it up? No knock on you directly, just an observation about the attitude in our culture. If this is true a child was tortured, if it's false someone is lying and needs to be outed (with facts) so they are not trusted. Neither one is good but is no one looking into it?
      - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
        > Did you investigate it? Nope. Rejecting a source doesn’t mean I am obligated to investigate it. As I said, whether this is true or not doesn’t seem particularly politically relevant. It would be interesting to know. But purely for curiosity, not because I think it will have practical effects.
    - gibbitz 7mo ago
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-toddler-torture-idf-israel-detention-b2947167.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-to... There are details here including quotations from an unnamed doctor. If feel you can't trust the media credentials of the Independent, you could contact them for the identity of the unnamed doctor (who they are likely protecting based on the nature of the conflict) and ask them directly.
      - 7mo ago
- dang 7mo ago
  This subthread was originally in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557437 before we merged the threads. (I mention this because otherwise the bit about archive links doesn't make sense.)
  - _DeadFred_ 7mo ago
    Dang, can we post topical Ukrainian news stories now? Because it wasn't allowed for so long and all the strong wording around it not being allowed most people have probably given up, but it would be good to know if the seemingly new policy applies to all conflicts now or just Gaza/Iran seeing as you are now un-flaging conflict related threads.
    - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
      > it wasn't allowed for so long Ukraine has been my pet war for years now. I never got this sense. It just needed to have a novel technological or geostrategic angle to make the front page. "Russia is being evil" didn't usually meet that threshold because it's not news, just colouring in between the lines.
ThrowawayR2 7mo ago
The site moderators have said that they do not see @ mentions. If you want to reach them, use the email address on the contact page linked at the bottom of the page. Re-submitting links to try to force attention to it is also not the correct approach. If you believe a story has been wrongly flagged, directly email the HN administrators with a link to the original submission.
f33d5173 7mo ago
This is not the right forum for this discussion. Flagging is exactly the correct response.
- gibbitz 7mo ago
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  - replooda 7mo ago
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xvxvx 7mo ago
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- ThrowawayR2 7mo ago
  The HN moderators have repeatedly said that they have not seen evidence of coordinated downvoting, e.g.: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46378818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46378818
  - xvxvx 7mo ago
    Test it out then. Say something critical about Israel. See the downvote my original reply has.
    - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
      I sort of agree in the sense that this particular thing has been FLAGGED on 3 different occasions... and your original comment has been flagged as well, so I am not even sure what it might've said in the first place.
SilverElfin 7mo ago
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cineticdaffodil 7mo ago
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- austin-cheney 7mo ago
  What islamo supremacists? What are you talking about? I just see constant news stories of genocidal violence against children in Gaza and settlers shooting unarmed teenagers or old women in the West Bank. To ensure there is no bias going on lets talk in numbers. * How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years? * How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank? From the outside looking in everything looks like a bunch of racists inventing their own narrative, without evidence, to justify killing children and taking land. The US, where I am from, went through this too a century ago on a much smaller scale in what the US calls lynchings and again a century before that with forced relocations.
  - TheGuyWhoCodes 7mo ago
    > What islamo supremacists? Ever heard of the Muslim Brotherhood (Erdogan is one of them for example), Hamas, IRGC, ISIS?? Go watch what these Muslim immigrants shout in the streets of Germany saying it's their land now and they will enact sharia law and create a new caliphate, then come back and talk about islamo supremacists. The "normal" Muslims are so against "colonization" but are ok, and see no issue, that Arabs conquered all the Middle East and North Africa killing millions and forcing conversion. > How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years? We don't actually know how many died and how many were innocent children as the count is run by Hamas and they count all the children soldiers as non combatants. > How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank? Why only count in Judea and samaria? 100 Israelis were killed and hundreds were injured just in Judea and samaria, it goes up to 250 in Israel proper. The only reason this number isn't higher is the tight security control that was even more strengthened after 7/10. As always the PA publishes causality numbers that include terrorists that were eliminated or even died in prison. Number don't tell the whole story, they lack context.
anukin 7mo ago
I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. Pakistan is openly committing human rights violations against baluchis and have done it against Bangladeshi Hindus. Sudan and Somalia have both been supported by the gulf countries. Maybe start protesting and have same amount of human feelings for non Muslims as well.
- defrost 7mo ago
  > There were no posts here for Sudanese people. You've made two submissions, neither were about Sudan. > None for Nigerian Christians Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 > Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. There are vast numbers of posts about Ukraine and its attack by Russia. Daily I see many comments expressing human feelings for people across the spectrum, muslim, non muslim, male, female, et al. Perhaps your impressions are a little blinkered.
  - anukin 7mo ago
    I have seen posts about Palestine here much more than the one you got for the Nigerian Christians. The one you got is from 2025 even when the issue is still ongoing. Maybe your impressions are muddied?
    - defrost 7mo ago
      Your impression was there were _none_. That error on your part aside, submission _topics_ here on HN are biased toward US / Western / English speaking tech interests and geographies ... Hence the low low number of Chinese posts about tech in rural China, etc. The topics that are posted, however (eg: Gaza, Ukraine in the political sphere) attract a breadth of viewpoints (both pro Israel and pro Palestine in the Gaza example). Your post above essentially laments that everything is pro Muslim on HN. You are wrong.
TomeveilSeeker 7mo ago
It just proves again how White people think suffering is only for "WHITE PEOPLE", for other barbarian people, it doesn't matter. Hackernews is dominated by white people and Indians, it's not surprising they support rape and all other crimes of Israel. If it was not the case, then this should have been surprising.
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
  I am an Indian (Hindu), Ironically, People have accused me of only caring about only Muslim feelings (: I don't stand with rape and all other crimes of Israel because I don't judge these actions by the religion of the victims and yes, even if that might mean that, that religion might have done the same to us (Pahalgam attack which shook the nation) I think my point is, just because muslim extremism has impacted our lives doesn't mean that Innocent muslims, especially kids should be tortured. I am more than happy if everyone removes extremist element, period. I have said this consistently here, but this goes beyond any religion. People are treating it as a muslim kid being impacted but I am seeing it as my kid being impacted. This war started recently, the people living their didn't know this could happen to them We dont know the future, what if something like this might happen to one of us where the enemy might be someone else, maybe even Extremist Islam I have raised my voice against opresssion, I don't discriminate against who I speak or not as I try to speak against the wrong, as long as someone innocent is getting opressed, My heart goes out to them and religion shouldn't have to do too much with it. My idea maybe is that too, that, if we show support of normal people even if religious differences collide, we can show that we are beyond religion and actually help bring down Extremism/will help them bring internal resistance too if something bad is done from their extremist side. At some point, I believe in Humanity and sharing that Humanity, So its quite shocking to say, but, its best that we start treating muslim people as humans too. Atleast that's what my religion has taught me personally, I really don't discriminate based on religion for the most part but I do understand why people might do that but I feel like all it does is seperate us even further and I wouldn't be able to have a coherent moral framework if I become hypocritical in who I criticize/don't and become partial to it.
- burnt-resistor 6mo ago
  Yep, it's Global North, class, and privilege bias. Unconscious to conscious racism that pervades the Global North as superior and more meaningful than the suffering of others locally or in distant lands because they're not as rich or don't look like them. History and the modern day are replete examples: African slaves in the Americas, American Indians, (Monroe Doctrine), Armenia, Vietnam, Bosnia, Rwanda, East Timor, Sudan, Darfur, Afghanistan, Iraq, Uygurs, Rohingya, many more ... and then comes Ukraine and "Oh, no, not pale Europeans" solidarity lasted for a couple of years with not as much support as 2022. OTOH, while the Shoah (Holocaust) is a crucial case study in history and human nature that hints at systematic repression and humiliation suffered by Jews and similar groups in various forms for 2300+ years, it was perverted by some into exceptionalism justification for neocolonial ethno-religio-nationalist supremacy in the realm of Kahanism and its allied supporters in government.
camgunz 7mo ago
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- Gud 7mo ago
  I fail to see how this can be anti semitic propaganda, the child is a Semite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
  - camgunz 7mo ago
    Shaddap
- etyhhgfff 7mo ago
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- ricardobeat 7mo ago
  The article has several sources including Sky News and the Red Cross, the IDF confirmed the arrest and the father is still missing even though nothing happened. Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism.
  - camgunz 7mo ago
    The article is essentially just the Sky News video in print. The parts that aren't are like "we couldn't verify this", like this quote: "I observed multiple deep, uniform lesions on his lower body, which are clinically consistent with deliberate cigarette burns used as a form of physical torture," she told Sky News. The Independent could not verify the report. It does not use the Red Cross as a source. Did you read the article? The kid's father carried him into the yellow zone and the IDF had to shoot the ground to get him to stop approaching. Did you watch the video? The kid's injuries are consistent with shrapnel from that, including "a wound caused by a sharp object", described in more detail later on by his mother as "entry and exit wounds... [i]t seems like they used a metal tool to pierce him." Weird, that's exactly what shrapnel is.... > Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism Parroting garbage like this, being a useful idiot for anti-semites, is anti-semitic. People walking on to this issue in the last year or so thinking they have moral clarity on it while knowing literally nothing about the history or all the groups involved are only making a bad situation worse.
h0mie 6mo ago
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JumpCrisscross 7mo ago

> genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link. Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. > post is beyond political, its a humanitarian post If it’s not political, it’s irrelevant. Gawking at humanitarian disaster isn’t a popular pass-time outside narrow bands of the internet. If you’re posting it to effect change, it is political. That’s fine. But I’m also sceptical why this would be expected to change the balance of views on the wars in the region. IDF and Hamas—the former, probably due to resources, at larger scale than the latter—being horrible to captives is well established. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
> Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link This wasn't the case with the previous post that I mentioned yet it got flagged ? . Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. When the post had gotten flagged/ I had thought of giving another link like msn (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-from-israeli-custody-with-suspected-torture-wounds/ar-AA1ZwgqF https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-f...) and this is a bit more in-depth (https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palestinian-baby-released-from-israeli-jail-with-cigarette-burn-wounds/ar-AA1ZAh0B https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palesti...) But I found no articles as thorough as this one. I don't believe as to if anything is factually wrong Also oops, yea I had just the link of archive.org and not the proper link (https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...) I am editing this for that, thank you for suggesting this! Edit: I can't edit the hackernews post, I am a bit sorry then to hackernews community for just sharing the archive.org link but I had accidentally pasted just the archive link instead, a bit sorry about that, perhaps moderators (if they wish) can change to this particular link or if someone wants to read it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
  > I found no articles as thorough as this one. I don't believe as to if anything is factually wrong Did a physician ever evaluate the child? And were the neighbours’ accounts that the child was unharmed when handed over by the father to the IDF independently verified? Torturing a toddler wouldn’t be out of character for the IDF right now. But just because something is believable doesn’t mean it’s true. The fact that nobody else is reporting on this should be cause for pause.
  - gibbitz 7mo ago
    Did you investigate it? If someone posted that Claude code created a new language that was typesafe and 50% more efficient for LLM coding and 20% faster for a human to review without any details about the language, would you not look it up? No knock on you directly, just an observation about the attitude in our culture. If this is true a child was tortured, if it's false someone is lying and needs to be outed (with facts) so they are not trusted. Neither one is good but is no one looking into it?
    - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
      > Did you investigate it? Nope. Rejecting a source doesn’t mean I am obligated to investigate it. As I said, whether this is true or not doesn’t seem particularly politically relevant. It would be interesting to know. But purely for curiosity, not because I think it will have practical effects.
  - gibbitz 7mo ago
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-toddler-torture-idf-israel-detention-b2947167.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-to... There are details here including quotations from an unnamed doctor. If feel you can't trust the media credentials of the Independent, you could contact them for the identity of the unnamed doctor (who they are likely protecting based on the nature of the conflict) and ask them directly.
    - 7mo ago
dang 7mo ago
This subthread was originally in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557437 before we merged the threads. (I mention this because otherwise the bit about archive links doesn't make sense.)
- _DeadFred_ 7mo ago
  Dang, can we post topical Ukrainian news stories now? Because it wasn't allowed for so long and all the strong wording around it not being allowed most people have probably given up, but it would be good to know if the seemingly new policy applies to all conflicts now or just Gaza/Iran seeing as you are now un-flaging conflict related threads.
  - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
    > it wasn't allowed for so long Ukraine has been my pet war for years now. I never got this sense. It just needed to have a novel technological or geostrategic angle to make the front page. "Russia is being evil" didn't usually meet that threshold because it's not news, just colouring in between the lines.

ThrowawayR2 7mo ago

The site moderators have said that they do not see @ mentions. If you want to reach them, use the email address on the contact page linked at the bottom of the page. Re-submitting links to try to force attention to it is also not the correct approach. If you believe a story has been wrongly flagged, directly email the HN administrators with a link to the original submission.

f33d5173 7mo ago

This is not the right forum for this discussion. Flagging is exactly the correct response.

gibbitz 7mo ago
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- replooda 7mo ago
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xvxvx 7mo ago

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ThrowawayR2 7mo ago
The HN moderators have repeatedly said that they have not seen evidence of coordinated downvoting, e.g.: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46378818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46378818
- xvxvx 7mo ago
  Test it out then. Say something critical about Israel. See the downvote my original reply has.
  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    I sort of agree in the sense that this particular thing has been FLAGGED on 3 different occasions... and your original comment has been flagged as well, so I am not even sure what it might've said in the first place.

SilverElfin 7mo ago

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cineticdaffodil 7mo ago

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austin-cheney 7mo ago
What islamo supremacists? What are you talking about? I just see constant news stories of genocidal violence against children in Gaza and settlers shooting unarmed teenagers or old women in the West Bank. To ensure there is no bias going on lets talk in numbers. * How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years? * How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank? From the outside looking in everything looks like a bunch of racists inventing their own narrative, without evidence, to justify killing children and taking land. The US, where I am from, went through this too a century ago on a much smaller scale in what the US calls lynchings and again a century before that with forced relocations.
- TheGuyWhoCodes 7mo ago
  > What islamo supremacists? Ever heard of the Muslim Brotherhood (Erdogan is one of them for example), Hamas, IRGC, ISIS?? Go watch what these Muslim immigrants shout in the streets of Germany saying it's their land now and they will enact sharia law and create a new caliphate, then come back and talk about islamo supremacists. The "normal" Muslims are so against "colonization" but are ok, and see no issue, that Arabs conquered all the Middle East and North Africa killing millions and forcing conversion. > How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years? We don't actually know how many died and how many were innocent children as the count is run by Hamas and they count all the children soldiers as non combatants. > How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank? Why only count in Judea and samaria? 100 Israelis were killed and hundreds were injured just in Judea and samaria, it goes up to 250 in Israel proper. The only reason this number isn't higher is the tight security control that was even more strengthened after 7/10. As always the PA publishes causality numbers that include terrorists that were eliminated or even died in prison. Number don't tell the whole story, they lack context.

anukin 7mo ago

I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. Pakistan is openly committing human rights violations against baluchis and have done it against Bangladeshi Hindus. Sudan and Somalia have both been supported by the gulf countries. Maybe start protesting and have same amount of human feelings for non Muslims as well.

defrost 7mo ago
> There were no posts here for Sudanese people. You've made two submissions, neither were about Sudan. > None for Nigerian Christians Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 > Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. There are vast numbers of posts about Ukraine and its attack by Russia. Daily I see many comments expressing human feelings for people across the spectrum, muslim, non muslim, male, female, et al. Perhaps your impressions are a little blinkered.
- anukin 7mo ago
  I have seen posts about Palestine here much more than the one you got for the Nigerian Christians. The one you got is from 2025 even when the issue is still ongoing. Maybe your impressions are muddied?
  - defrost 7mo ago
    Your impression was there were _none_. That error on your part aside, submission _topics_ here on HN are biased toward US / Western / English speaking tech interests and geographies ... Hence the low low number of Chinese posts about tech in rural China, etc. The topics that are posted, however (eg: Gaza, Ukraine in the political sphere) attract a breadth of viewpoints (both pro Israel and pro Palestine in the Gaza example). Your post above essentially laments that everything is pro Muslim on HN. You are wrong.

TomeveilSeeker 7mo ago

It just proves again how White people think suffering is only for "WHITE PEOPLE", for other barbarian people, it doesn't matter. Hackernews is dominated by white people and Indians, it's not surprising they support rape and all other crimes of Israel. If it was not the case, then this should have been surprising.

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
I am an Indian (Hindu), Ironically, People have accused me of only caring about only Muslim feelings (: I don't stand with rape and all other crimes of Israel because I don't judge these actions by the religion of the victims and yes, even if that might mean that, that religion might have done the same to us (Pahalgam attack which shook the nation) I think my point is, just because muslim extremism has impacted our lives doesn't mean that Innocent muslims, especially kids should be tortured. I am more than happy if everyone removes extremist element, period. I have said this consistently here, but this goes beyond any religion. People are treating it as a muslim kid being impacted but I am seeing it as my kid being impacted. This war started recently, the people living their didn't know this could happen to them We dont know the future, what if something like this might happen to one of us where the enemy might be someone else, maybe even Extremist Islam I have raised my voice against opresssion, I don't discriminate against who I speak or not as I try to speak against the wrong, as long as someone innocent is getting opressed, My heart goes out to them and religion shouldn't have to do too much with it. My idea maybe is that too, that, if we show support of normal people even if religious differences collide, we can show that we are beyond religion and actually help bring down Extremism/will help them bring internal resistance too if something bad is done from their extremist side. At some point, I believe in Humanity and sharing that Humanity, So its quite shocking to say, but, its best that we start treating muslim people as humans too. Atleast that's what my religion has taught me personally, I really don't discriminate based on religion for the most part but I do understand why people might do that but I feel like all it does is seperate us even further and I wouldn't be able to have a coherent moral framework if I become hypocritical in who I criticize/don't and become partial to it.
burnt-resistor 6mo ago
Yep, it's Global North, class, and privilege bias. Unconscious to conscious racism that pervades the Global North as superior and more meaningful than the suffering of others locally or in distant lands because they're not as rich or don't look like them. History and the modern day are replete examples: African slaves in the Americas, American Indians, (Monroe Doctrine), Armenia, Vietnam, Bosnia, Rwanda, East Timor, Sudan, Darfur, Afghanistan, Iraq, Uygurs, Rohingya, many more ... and then comes Ukraine and "Oh, no, not pale Europeans" solidarity lasted for a couple of years with not as much support as 2022. OTOH, while the Shoah (Holocaust) is a crucial case study in history and human nature that hints at systematic repression and humiliation suffered by Jews and similar groups in various forms for 2300+ years, it was perverted by some into exceptionalism justification for neocolonial ethno-religio-nationalist supremacy in the realm of Kahanism and its allied supporters in government.

camgunz 7mo ago

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Gud 7mo ago
I fail to see how this can be anti semitic propaganda, the child is a Semite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
- camgunz 7mo ago
  Shaddap
etyhhgfff 7mo ago
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ricardobeat 7mo ago
The article has several sources including Sky News and the Red Cross, the IDF confirmed the arrest and the father is still missing even though nothing happened. Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism.
- camgunz 7mo ago
  The article is essentially just the Sky News video in print. The parts that aren't are like "we couldn't verify this", like this quote: "I observed multiple deep, uniform lesions on his lower body, which are clinically consistent with deliberate cigarette burns used as a form of physical torture," she told Sky News. The Independent could not verify the report. It does not use the Red Cross as a source. Did you read the article? The kid's father carried him into the yellow zone and the IDF had to shoot the ground to get him to stop approaching. Did you watch the video? The kid's injuries are consistent with shrapnel from that, including "a wound caused by a sharp object", described in more detail later on by his mother as "entry and exit wounds... [i]t seems like they used a metal tool to pierce him." Weird, that's exactly what shrapnel is.... > Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism Parroting garbage like this, being a useful idiot for anti-semites, is anti-semitic. People walking on to this issue in the last year or so thinking they have moral clarity on it while knowing literally nothing about the history or all the groups involved are only making a bad situation worse.

h0mie 6mo ago

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