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You are exaggerating, right? They didn't really fire the entire Arc team did they? I couldn't find a source saying that.

DiabloD3 6mo ago
Nope, no exaggeration. The news that Celestial is basically canceled already hit the HN front page, as well as Druid has been canceled before tapeout. Celestial will only be issued in the variant that comes in budget/industrial embedded Intel platforms that have a combined IO+GPU tile, but the performance big boy desktop/laptop parts that have a dedicated graphics tile will ship an Nvidia-produced tile. There will be no Celestial DGPU variant, nor dedicated tile variant. Drivers will be ceasing support for DGPUs of all flavors, and no new bug fixes will happen for B series GPUs (as there is no B series IGPUs; A series IGPUs will remain unaffected). They signed the deal like 2-3 months ago to cancel GPUs in favor of Nvidia. The other end of this deal is the Nvidia SBCs in the future will be shipping as big-boy variants with Xeon CPUs, Rubin (replacing Blackwell) for the GPU, Vera (replacing Grace) for the on-SBC GPU babysitter, and newest gen Xeons to do the non-inference tasks that Grace can't handle. There is also talk that this deal may lead to Nvidia moving to Intel Foundry, away from TSMC. There is also talk that Nvidia may just buy Intel entirely. For further information, see Moore's Law Is Dead's coverage off and on over the past year.
- gk-- 6mo ago
  ah, so this is MLID. yeah i'll wait for the announcement.
- PowerElectronix 6mo ago
  MLID is a terrible information source.
- chao- 6mo ago
  You may be a bit too credulous. There has been a "leak" or "rumor" that Intel's GPU initiatives are canceled about once every three months, for over two years. Yet Intel continues to release new SKUs and make new product announcements. Just last month they announced a new data center GPU product (an inference-focused variant of Jaguar Shores). I can't see the future, but I can see patterns: the media that reports straight from the industry rumor mill LOVES this "Intel has cancelled its GPUs" story, for whatever reason. I have no particular love for Intel (out of my six current systems, my only Intel box is a cheap NUC from 2018), but at this point, these rumors echo the old joke about economists who "accurately predicted the last nine out of two recessions".
- thesmart 6mo ago
  The idea that Intel's foundry could replace TSMC is hilarious. No. Maybe a gamer-focused mid-market card based on 30-series.
  - throwaway85825 6mo ago
    Pat spent a lot of money on foundry to catch up.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 6mo ago
  MLID has been saying Arc was cancelled since before the first Alchemist cards were released.

DiabloD3 6mo ago

Nope, no exaggeration. The news that Celestial is basically canceled already hit the HN front page, as well as Druid has been canceled before tapeout. Celestial will only be issued in the variant that comes in budget/industrial embedded Intel platforms that have a combined IO+GPU tile, but the performance big boy desktop/laptop parts that have a dedicated graphics tile will ship an Nvidia-produced tile. There will be no Celestial DGPU variant, nor dedicated tile variant. Drivers will be ceasing support for DGPUs of all flavors, and no new bug fixes will happen for B series GPUs (as there is no B series IGPUs; A series IGPUs will remain unaffected). They signed the deal like 2-3 months ago to cancel GPUs in favor of Nvidia. The other end of this deal is the Nvidia SBCs in the future will be shipping as big-boy variants with Xeon CPUs, Rubin (replacing Blackwell) for the GPU, Vera (replacing Grace) for the on-SBC GPU babysitter, and newest gen Xeons to do the non-inference tasks that Grace can't handle. There is also talk that this deal may lead to Nvidia moving to Intel Foundry, away from TSMC. There is also talk that Nvidia may just buy Intel entirely. For further information, see Moore's Law Is Dead's coverage off and on over the past year.

gk-- 6mo ago
ah, so this is MLID. yeah i'll wait for the announcement.
PowerElectronix 6mo ago
MLID is a terrible information source.
chao- 6mo ago
You may be a bit too credulous. There has been a "leak" or "rumor" that Intel's GPU initiatives are canceled about once every three months, for over two years. Yet Intel continues to release new SKUs and make new product announcements. Just last month they announced a new data center GPU product (an inference-focused variant of Jaguar Shores). I can't see the future, but I can see patterns: the media that reports straight from the industry rumor mill LOVES this "Intel has cancelled its GPUs" story, for whatever reason. I have no particular love for Intel (out of my six current systems, my only Intel box is a cheap NUC from 2018), but at this point, these rumors echo the old joke about economists who "accurately predicted the last nine out of two recessions".
thesmart 6mo ago
The idea that Intel's foundry could replace TSMC is hilarious. No. Maybe a gamer-focused mid-market card based on 30-series.
- throwaway85825 6mo ago
  Pat spent a lot of money on foundry to catch up.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 6mo ago
MLID has been saying Arc was cancelled since before the first Alchemist cards were released.