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Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries' elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when their population votes for warcriminals ei
by shevy-java 7mo ago
Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries'
elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when
their population votes for warcriminals either.
- afavour 7mo agoThis isn't Israel the state, it's a private company that's based in Israel.
- asadm 7mo agogee I wonder what does the private company gain from defaming another country's "pro-Palestine" party.
- afavour 7mo ago...money? My point is a simple one: the company was hired by someone. Was it the opposition party? To say this is entirely Israel's doing implies the Slovenian party that benefits just happens to have gotten lucky. The reality is likely considerably murkier than that.
- bigyabai 7mo agoTo say that this is entirely the Slovenian party's fault implies that Israel cannot govern their own state. Both are complicit.
- margalabargala 7mo ago> implies that Israel cannot govern their own state Or more simply that what the Israeli company did, is not illegal in Israel.
- bigyabai 7mo agoI can guarantee you that it is very illegal if you target the wrong government. Selective prosecution is a recurring issue under Israeli jurisprudence.
- margalabargala 7mo agoOkay, sure. Is Slovenia the wrong government?
- vrganj 7mo agoWould Black Cube have accepted a client that was very pro-Palestinian and was trying to lure voters away from the pro-Israel party?
- wat10000 7mo agoAnd to say it's not Israel's doing implies that Israel just happens to have gotten lucky.
- tsimionescu 7mo agoAny company that sells this type of services exists as an extension of its parent state. Any contract it offers, especially to a political entity in another state, will be scrutinized by state authorities and allowed by them or not. Sometimes, those contracts will be forced on the company based on state-level negotiations. Noone is saying that the party that contracted this company (if indeed it was a Slovenian party and not the Israeli state itself) for this service doesn't carry blame. But both the company itself and the state of Israel carry just as much blame for offering, permitting, and carrying out such services. By your logic, if someone were to found a legal private paid assassin company in France, and then the opposition party in Germany hired this company to assassinate the German chancellor, you'd say that it's unfair for Germany to blame France for this.
- chiengineer 7mo agoOh thats adorable
- amarcheschi 7mo agoThat's like saying that Raytheon doesn't advance US interests in the world
- postsantum 7mo agoNED is not a CIA front sweatie, it's just a private institute
- mrexcess 7mo ago>NED is not a CIA front sweatie Curious: can you show the research steps you took to reach this conclusion? Really curious how we can all easily determine which companies are and aren't CIA fronts!
- tsimionescu 7mo agoIf you think for a second that the Israeli state allows this company to sell its services to anyone who is opposed to their interests, you really don't understand how defense companies and states work.
- vrganj 7mo agoSure, a private company that just happens to have had multiple former Mossad directors on their board. Coincidences are funny sometimes :-)
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- akudha 7mo agoSo many countries (Russia is reported to be helping Orban, for example) meddle in other countries' affairs, even when it doesn't affect them at all, directly or indirectly. These days a lot of damage can be done online (propaganda, riling people up, fake news etc) for very little money - how does one even begin to counter this? Especially if you are a small country/poor with limited resources
- fweimer 7mo agoIs “we” referring to the United States? Sheldon Adelson's backing helped Netanyahu a lot, and not just by funding the free Israel Hayom newspaper (which generally assumes a right-wing, pro-Netanyahu editorial stance).