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It was never about nuclear weapons, Netanyahu has been saying Iran was one week away for over 30 years. Europe goes along as an excuse to support politically un

It was never about nuclear weapons, Netanyahu has been saying Iran was one week away for over 30 years. Europe goes along as an excuse to support politically unpopular war to maintain US support for Ukraine.

fruit2020 7mo ago
What would you expect Europe to do? It’s not like they openly support this war. The Iranian diaspora supports it, there is the secularism element, but the US doesn’t care about the Iranian people anyway
- decimalenough 7mo ago
  The diaspora is happy about the regime being targeted. They will be much, much more ambivalent if the US starts targeting power infrastructure and innocent people in hospitals etc start dying en masse.
  - lenkite 7mo ago
    Power infrastructure & hospitals are already being targeted and bombed. Just doesn't make the news.
    - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
      > Power infrastructure & hospitals are already being targeted and bombed It's absolutely not. If they were being targeted, material fractions of them would be getting destroyed. Instead we're seeing one offs, which look more like fuckups or Israeli nonsense.
- orwin 7mo ago
  The diaspora somewhat supported it for a week. Then a desalination plant was hit, and I guarantee the support grew way, way weaker. Now we're 3 weeks in, and the only Iranian I keep contact with is extremely sad that the outcome is this bad. I won't tell him 'i told you so', because unlike people on HN who argue for the operation, he doesn't deserve it, but to the 'regime change' supporters: I told you so.
IncreasePosts 7mo ago
No, he hasn't been saying that, despite what you may have read in a random reddit comment. In the 90s he was saying 3-5 years. In 2010 it was 1-2 years. The first time any kind of claim measured in weeks was immediately before Rising Lion last year, and guess what, the IAEA agreed with him.
- riffraff 7mo ago
  In 2015 he said weeks. I think we can agree a few weeks passed before that and bombing Iran ten years later. https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ?is=woFU_DlsW3Eb5NYd https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ?is=woFU_DlsW3Eb5NYd
  - IncreasePosts 7mo ago
    I think we can agree that being weeks away from having enough fissile material for a nuke is different from being weeks away from having a nuke. Unless you think you just get your fissile material and then pop it in the next day

fruit2020 7mo ago

What would you expect Europe to do? It’s not like they openly support this war. The Iranian diaspora supports it, there is the secularism element, but the US doesn’t care about the Iranian people anyway

decimalenough 7mo ago
The diaspora is happy about the regime being targeted. They will be much, much more ambivalent if the US starts targeting power infrastructure and innocent people in hospitals etc start dying en masse.
- lenkite 7mo ago
  Power infrastructure & hospitals are already being targeted and bombed. Just doesn't make the news.
  - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
    > Power infrastructure & hospitals are already being targeted and bombed It's absolutely not. If they were being targeted, material fractions of them would be getting destroyed. Instead we're seeing one offs, which look more like fuckups or Israeli nonsense.
orwin 7mo ago
The diaspora somewhat supported it for a week. Then a desalination plant was hit, and I guarantee the support grew way, way weaker. Now we're 3 weeks in, and the only Iranian I keep contact with is extremely sad that the outcome is this bad. I won't tell him 'i told you so', because unlike people on HN who argue for the operation, he doesn't deserve it, but to the 'regime change' supporters: I told you so.

IncreasePosts 7mo ago

No, he hasn't been saying that, despite what you may have read in a random reddit comment. In the 90s he was saying 3-5 years. In 2010 it was 1-2 years. The first time any kind of claim measured in weeks was immediately before Rising Lion last year, and guess what, the IAEA agreed with him.

riffraff 7mo ago
In 2015 he said weeks. I think we can agree a few weeks passed before that and bombing Iran ten years later. https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ?is=woFU_DlsW3Eb5NYd https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ?is=woFU_DlsW3Eb5NYd
- IncreasePosts 7mo ago
  I think we can agree that being weeks away from having enough fissile material for a nuke is different from being weeks away from having a nuke. Unless you think you just get your fissile material and then pop it in the next day