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There's only one highly monetizable use for AI video generation but unfortunately it's fake revenge porn. You'll know the whole thing is about to collapse when

There's only one highly monetizable use for AI video generation but unfortunately it's fake revenge porn. You'll know the whole thing is about to collapse when the frontier models break that glass (as OpenAI is already preparing to do with sexting).

coderenegade 7mo ago
I for one can't wait for ChatGPT-style sexting to become a thing. It's not just dirty talk. It's a whole new paradigm in verbal filth. On the topic of sora, though: current models are astounding. I watched a clip of Leonidas, Aragorn, William Wallace, Gandalf etc. all casually riding into a generic medieval town together, and if you showed that to me a few years ago, it would have seemed like magic. We're not far off from concerts featuring only dead artists, and all video and image testimony becoming unreliable. Maybe Sora was a victim of timing or mismanagement, because I don't see how this isn't still a seismic shift in the entertainment industry.
- bandrami 7mo ago
  I mean, you just outlined why it won't be a seismic shift: the only way the videos reliably stay on-model is if that model violates someone's copyright. And then when the movie is made the output itself isn't copyrightable (the ultimate arrangement may be but no individual frame is).
- pjc50 7mo ago
  > all video and image testimony becoming unreliable This is a "seismic shift" in the sense of the Big One hitting California. The knock on effects of trust erosion caused by AI are going to huge and potentially unrecoverable.
Frost1x 7mo ago
Why does it need to be revenge porn? Pretty sure regular old porn has a large market there where people can specify what they idealistically want to see vs trying to find it, if it exists. Not every place has LEGO incest porn… or whatever the kids are into these days.
- UncleMeat 7mo ago
  People make revenge porn to humiliate people. Regular old porn can't achieve that goal.
  - andrewflnr 7mo ago
    And yet, regular porn is highly monetizable, which was the actual question.
    - bandrami 7mo ago
      Surprisingly no; it's pretty much a money sink where everybody goes bankrupt after a couple of years. It's why it's attractive to money launderers.
      - pjc50 7mo ago
        I'm not sure that's true for onlyfans, which seems to have been highly profitable until the sudden death of its founder.
        bandrami 7mo ago
        Excellent point: I'm talking about pornography 1.0, as it were.
        cpt_sobel 7mo ago
        1.0 should be attributed to pornography _before_ online distribution, and I suspect that was pretty profitable
        biztos 7mo ago
        Isn't 1.0 before _photography_ rather?
AlexCoventry 7mo ago
> There's only one highly monetizable use for AI video generation Yeah, marketing. Which is a huge market...
duskwuff 7mo ago
There are others! They're just all horrible and generally revolve around weaponized misinformation - personalized scams, for instance.
- bandrami 7mo ago
  Oh right. There's a bunch of panicky news stories in India about that right now. Fake video calls from your nephew in the UK or whatever needing money for an emergency
x0x0 7mo ago
It's also used in piles and piles of fake video flooding youtube/tiktok/etc. Driving clicks and engagement.

coderenegade 7mo ago

I for one can't wait for ChatGPT-style sexting to become a thing. It's not just dirty talk. It's a whole new paradigm in verbal filth. On the topic of sora, though: current models are astounding. I watched a clip of Leonidas, Aragorn, William Wallace, Gandalf etc. all casually riding into a generic medieval town together, and if you showed that to me a few years ago, it would have seemed like magic. We're not far off from concerts featuring only dead artists, and all video and image testimony becoming unreliable. Maybe Sora was a victim of timing or mismanagement, because I don't see how this isn't still a seismic shift in the entertainment industry.

bandrami 7mo ago
I mean, you just outlined why it won't be a seismic shift: the only way the videos reliably stay on-model is if that model violates someone's copyright. And then when the movie is made the output itself isn't copyrightable (the ultimate arrangement may be but no individual frame is).
pjc50 7mo ago
> all video and image testimony becoming unreliable This is a "seismic shift" in the sense of the Big One hitting California. The knock on effects of trust erosion caused by AI are going to huge and potentially unrecoverable.

Frost1x 7mo ago

Why does it need to be revenge porn? Pretty sure regular old porn has a large market there where people can specify what they idealistically want to see vs trying to find it, if it exists. Not every place has LEGO incest porn… or whatever the kids are into these days.

UncleMeat 7mo ago
People make revenge porn to humiliate people. Regular old porn can't achieve that goal.
- andrewflnr 7mo ago
  And yet, regular porn is highly monetizable, which was the actual question.
  - bandrami 7mo ago
    Surprisingly no; it's pretty much a money sink where everybody goes bankrupt after a couple of years. It's why it's attractive to money launderers.
    - pjc50 7mo ago
      I'm not sure that's true for onlyfans, which seems to have been highly profitable until the sudden death of its founder.
      - bandrami 7mo ago
        Excellent point: I'm talking about pornography 1.0, as it were.
        cpt_sobel 7mo ago
        1.0 should be attributed to pornography _before_ online distribution, and I suspect that was pretty profitable
        biztos 7mo ago
        Isn't 1.0 before _photography_ rather?

AlexCoventry 7mo ago

> There's only one highly monetizable use for AI video generation Yeah, marketing. Which is a huge market...

duskwuff 7mo ago

There are others! They're just all horrible and generally revolve around weaponized misinformation - personalized scams, for instance.

bandrami 7mo ago
Oh right. There's a bunch of panicky news stories in India about that right now. Fake video calls from your nephew in the UK or whatever needing money for an emergency

x0x0 7mo ago

It's also used in piles and piles of fake video flooding youtube/tiktok/etc. Driving clicks and engagement.