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It’s just embarrassing at this point. How long will the Americans put up with this humiliation ritual?
by lwansbrough 7mo ago
It’s just embarrassing at this point. How long will the Americans put up with this humiliation ritual?
- cdrnsf 7mo agoAs long as a significant portion of the population continues voting for it.
- lwansbrough 7mo agoWell let’s hope, as Bush once said, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice… can’t get fooled again.”
- cdrnsf 7mo agoHopefully. They've bene fooled into voting for him 3 times already.
- throw310822 7mo agoThe US have been fooled by Israel for the past... thirty, forty years at least? Look who Trump is sending around the world to negotiate on behalf of the US: two committed Zionists, personal friends of Netanyahu and past financers of the Israeli army. The other negotiators regard them as Israeli assets, plain and simple. While they pretend to "negotiate", Israel launches surprise attacks that have not been agreed with the US and that forces them to intervene.
- libertine 7mo agoEither Russian propaganda is leaking into US, or people are being so easy to manipulate it's becoming scary. What's the deal the US not having agency? Lol Russia was manipulated by NATO and they were fooled over and over again, according to the state propaganda - if that was true, why are they still stuck with the fool who keeps being fooled? Isn't that the sign of a deficient leadership? Same applies to the Trump administration, until when will that narrative stick? Because the "common sense", a big trope used by both states propaganda, claims that you can only be fooled once lol
- fakedang 7mo agoThe US has an eternal fool on the throne. Common sense also claims that you can only declare bankruptcy once, and never with a casino, yet here we are. It is also very clear that both the US and Israel have very different mission objectives, which is why there's no way out for this admin. A long war may destroy Iran but will also help them in the long run - a war that they're eager to fight. Furthermore it has been established that Trump was goaded into this war by his benefactors, as well as Netanyahu and Mohammed bin Salman. What Israel and US (and MBS) don't understand is that they've just enabled a country 3 times the size of France to go militant, in their backyard.
- warmonger 7mo agoSo funny that you moved the discussion from Israel to Russia. But after checking your comments I see that Russia lives rent-free in your mind. > Either Russian propaganda is leaking into US, or people are being so easy to manipulate it's becoming scary. Manipulation, double standards and bias are very difficult to avoid and an average human with a job just have no time to verify everything, so they just consume and the more they consume the more they believe in it.
- xg15 7mo agoI read somewhere that Bush made this awkward figure of speech not because he didn't know the idiom, but because he realized too late that he'd be saying "shame on me" on air, which is apparently a phrase absolutely Verboten by political media advisors (because it could have been taken out of context and used by his adversaries). In a way that says a lot about the political culture that resulted in a figure like Trump, I think.
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- cosmicgadget 7mo agoSeems like the better option is to simply say, "you know the rest of the saying". Perhaps he actually just flubbed. Many such cases.
- JKCalhoun 7mo agoMeet the new boss…
- coldtea 7mo agoThat's not why they got this. In fact they precisely voted someone promising no more wars, no more foreign meddling, and so on. And they'll get wars and the same shit after they vote the other way too. Just like they got wars under Obama. No matter who they vote, the bastards always win.
- phlipski 7mo agoThey voted for a proven con-man because they hated the idea of a black woman being president. US Racism - still going strong after 250 years...
- gedy 7mo agoThere are plenty of excellent black women leaders - Kamala Harris was not one of those. Do not excuse the Democratic Party here with their dysfunctional internal infighting with just being down to racism.
- bdangubic 7mo agoyou should familirize yourself with Kamala Harris before saying she is not a leader - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris While Democratic Party could have picked another candidate, to appease comments like this (I heard this too many times by a lot of very, very smart people so I am not demeaning your comment/opinion in any way) that other candidate would have been a white male
- syeare 7mo agoThere's still people out there that believe the west is a "democracy"? People really think voting, elections, politics in general is even real and not a reality show/circus act put on for the masses?
- spiderfarmer 7mo agoIf you don't see why Trump is worse than Kamala or Clinton would have been, I don't know what to say. The reputation of the US is in the gutter. Even European people are now openly expressing their hatred.
- KellyCriterion 7mo agoHad the same thoughts earlier: Even IF tomorrow would come a fresh "and super nice US president", Trump et al crushed so much that the damage is already severe and will be permanent for the future: US gov lost so much trust in more or less everything that was perceived as somehow reliable by others. The damage is that big that -apart from BigTech- the US-industry will have a hard time coming
- justonceokay 7mo agoSo many people make so much money from it. I don’t personally this time but I did last time working for tech. Maybe I will again next time. This is the third time America been “humiliated” in my life and my life is awesome and getting better. /s But that is the overall sentiment if I had to describe it without pretense
- drcongo 7mo agoWho are the hackers?
- cyanydeez 7mo agoIf you take Russia as a boilerplate; never. Trump will "trickle down" the corruption to just enough people to keep everyone complacent and do as he wills.
- Terr_ 7mo agoI think "humiliation ritual" is a hugely important concept to keep in mind these days: It has a lot of explanatory power for the stuff we're seeing in politics. (For example, televised Trump cabinet meetings where the brown-nosing is almost beyond parody.) A cult will demand members do things to "fit in", especially things that have a cost ("prove your sincerity") and also things which alienate them from the non-group. The latter is a ratcheting trap, leading to: "We are your only home now, nobody else will have you."
- justonceokay 7mo agoIt’s the psychological effect of a Mormon mission. Spend two years getting hate from all angles, teaching you just how good your home, family, and church are. Every ex-mormon I know contemplated suicide on their mission. Every practicing Mormon I know has a story about “their lowest point” and how actually it was a really really good thing if you think about it sideways
- nslsm 7mo agoIt’s been going on for a very long time. Remember USS Liberty?
- ebbi 7mo agoAs long as their leaders care more about Israel than the nation they were sworn in to serve. The response from Ted Cruz in the interview with Tucker Carlson was glaring, yet refreshing - it went from silly conspiracy to fact, overnight.
- locknitpicker 7mo ago> As long as their leaders care more about Israel than the nation they were sworn in to serve. Trump's wars and military threats (Greenland, Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, etc) have more to do with Trump's ties to Epstein than Israel's foreign policy. The extent to which Russia and Israel manipulate Trump with kompromat is to be determined.
- octopoc 7mo agoEpstein represented the Rothschildes, the family that founded Israel. His girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell is a Mossad asset. Separating Trump’s influence by Epstein from Trump’s influence by Israel isn’t possible. The two are intertwined.
- habinero 7mo agoQuit it. Peddle your antisemitism elsewhere.
- nslsm 7mo agoThey’ll call you an antisemite, but never a liar.
- BobaFloutist 7mo agoRight, because we do believe that you believe what you're saying.
- ebbi 7mo agoSo the Iraq war also was not tied to Israel's foreign policy? So it was just a coincidence that Netanyahu had been advocating for these wars? It was just a coincidence that the US got involved in last years 12 day war after Israel initiated the bombings in Iran?
- npn 7mo ago20 years.
- bamboozled 7mo agoIt's everything they voted for...