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People got exactly what they voted for. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so serious.
by andix 7mo ago
People got exactly what they voted for. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so serious.
- Bratmon 7mo ago[flagged]
- KK7NIL 7mo agoNo idea why you're getting downvoted, this is absolutely true. The people have lost faith in both parties, we now expect our leaders to be cronies.
- lepset 7mo agoPeople just don't like the "both sides are the same" clownery anymore. It's not true and will never be true.
- Bratmon 7mo agoSo are you asserting that Nancy Pelosi wasn't insider trading when her party was in power?
- lepset 7mo agoYes I am asserting that, there is no proven evidence she was. Congressional stock trading is legal.
- KK7NIL 7mo agoThere's no "proven evidence" (whatever that means) that people in the Trump administration are insider trading either, yet we can see some very suspicious ripples in the market. Pelosi was even more obvious as we know all of her trades, their timing and her outrageous outperformance during that period.
- lepset 7mo agoTrump is out here running crypto rug pull grifts as the president to enrich himself and his family while holding office. This hand wringing about Nancy Pelosi is just slopulism. She just invested in SF tech companies and they happened to do well.
- orwin 7mo agoI think he is asserting she never created a policy, tweeted or manufactured a war for her insider trading: it was purely opportunistic.
- tmountain 7mo agoYou’re complaining about the buffet while the titanic is going down.
- smokedetector1 7mo agothis is such an unserious take. Insider trading is prevalent on both sides. But the brazen daily market manipulation done by this administration is different. If you dont see that you are willingly blind
- Bratmon 7mo agoOkay enlighten me: Why is it good when Democrats insider trade but bad when Republicans take the exact same trades?
- acdha 7mo agoIt’s not different because of who’s doing it but due to scale: creating news which steers markets is worse than trading based on insider information, and there’s a scale question as well (billions versus millions). I want them both prosecuted but in terms of priorities I’d favor the police going after armed robbers over porch thieves.
- whamlastxmas 7mo agoI think this sort of thinking is why we have people who continue to vote against their own self interests. The fact is we really don't have enough information to make meaningful conclusions about which party is causing more harm with insider trading. It would take a team of accountants and lawyers years to confidently measure this. A random individual isn't going to assess this well. But because people confidently draw often incorrect or baseless conclusions based on vibes and what largely democrat controlled corporate news media tells them, they're going to fall into us versus them mentality at party lines instead of better understanding that both sides are screwing us over tremendously and not accepting a perceived lesser evil
- smokedetector1 7mo agoI am not a fan of the democrats - I think they are corrupt and have in many cases given up on being democratic, totally beholden to their donors. That said, Trump is unbelievably obviously corrupt and doing immense, immediate, and obvious damage to the country in pursuit of personal enrichment. If you dont see this you are willingly blind.
- gritspants 7mo agoI am bothered by the fact that many people have just resigned themselves to this state of affairs. Rather they're leaning in to this behavior themselves in small doses, incrementally, believing that having integrity is for suckers.
- Bratmon 7mo agoSo what's your suggestion, enlightened one?
- gritspants 7mo agoI understand the sarcasm. One thing I liked was the NYT's recent interview with (former General) McChrystal, who suggested making some form of service mandatory, not necessarily military but teaching, charity, and public works. I don't believe these issues can be solved at the macro level. The US has many crumbling institutions and they are still ripe for the taking. Participate in volunteer events, the local FD, join the local Masons, or similar. Engage with people directly, locally, even or especially with people who you assume hate you (they probably don't).
- jumpkick 7mo agoSince you've drawn the comparison, it's worth pointing out that a notable difference is that Nancy Pelosi was not (nor was running to be) POTUS and could not have unilaterally gotten the US into a war in the middle east.
- filoeleven 7mo agoAmusingly enough, she was Speaker of the House, which means at one point she had more legitimate power to enact war than Trump ever has. The Congress must first vote to declare war, and only then can the President sign and execute it. Legitimately.
- trigvi 7mo agoTo reduce the insider trading's attack surface, we should first reduce the things a govt can control or legislate on.
- Bratmon 7mo agoDo you have more specifics on that? Because unless you plan to abolish the military, it doesn't really seem relevant to this incident.
- gosub100 7mo agoBiden or Kamala aren't under Israeli influence?
- bubbi 7mo ago[dead]
- sophacles 7mo agoIts pretty safe to say that Biden didn't go start a disastrous war because Netanyahu said a nice thing about him. It also seems unlikely that Harris would have started such a war with her 2-state stance. There's such a thing as degrees of influence. A fool who is strictly against anything Israel suggests is just as manipulable as a narcissistic moron.
- jwr 7mo agoAll the whataboutism in the replies here is amusing, because for once people are actually right, and the OP is also right. People got exactly what they voted for. For many decades now they voted and voted and perpetuated the same system of two parties, each one terrible in its own ways (though arguably one is really quite a bit worse than the other. All that is literally what people voted for.
- refurb 7mo agoWhat I find funny is there is zero proof of any connection to the President yet we have 350+ comments of people 100% sure they know what’s going on. Honestly? It’s all pretty boring.