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Blaming React is absurd. Its like blaming the screwdriver instead of the person using it.
by mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
Blaming React is absurd. Its like blaming the screwdriver instead of the person using it.
- etiennebausson 7mo agoHe isn't blaming React (or Copilot), but those who used them in context they had no place in.
- mexicocitinluez 7mo ago"developers with infecting then with React" is 100% blaming React
- edgyquant 7mo agoNo it’s directly putting the blame on developers
- anthonylevine 7mo ago"I'm on HN and whenever I see React mentioned I'm constitutionally incapable of not saying something dumb"
- shmeeed 7mo agoSeen in the context of the thread, with the both of you never addressing the actual problem at hand but instead reflexively and vigorously defending React against an alleged attack, I'm sorry to say this reads like an admission.
- tremon 7mo agoI too would absolutely blame a plumber for trying to fix my leaking pipes with a screwdriver instead of e.g. a solder patch. Not everything is a screw, not even in the developing world.
- mexicocitinluez 7mo agolol Blame the plumber then. "Infecting with screwdrivers" now see how dumb that sounds?
- Draiken 7mo agoNobody's blaming React. The blame lies on the bad developers that chose it to write a freaking start menu. React is the symptom here, not the cause.
- mexicocitinluez 7mo agoWhat does "infecting them with React" mean?
- shmeeed 7mo agoIntroducing bloat.
- someguyiguess 7mo agoUmm sir, it's Windows. Bloat is part of its core architecture.
- shmeeed 7mo agoFair point...
- general1465 7mo agoBlaming React is correct. It is like asking for a picture on a wall and instead getting noisy, power hungry plasma TV on a wall.
- anthonylevine 7mo agoThis metaphor is so stupidly bad it's hard to believe you guys even know what React is.
- tremon 7mo agoThank you, your comment sure helps to improve our understanding of React a lot.
- anthonylevine 7mo ago[flagged]
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- jamesnorden 7mo agoThanks for adding nothing at all to the conversation.
- shmeeed 7mo agoI'm not a dev and actually don't know what React is. I don't care for this metaphor. As a user, however, I find that the Start menu has become more sluggish than it used to be, and that's pretty annoying. What about that?
- mexicocitinluez 7mo agohttps://pathar.tl/blog/no-windows-start-does-not-use-react/ https://pathar.tl/blog/no-windows-start-does-not-use-react/
- account42 7mo agoWe can blame both. If my repair bill was higher because the mechanic chose to use a ridiculous electric screwdriver that used tons of power to achieve what a normal screwdriver can and stripped the screws in the process then I'd also be upset with both the mechanic and the ridiculously inefficient tool.
- anthonylevine 7mo ago> a ridiculous electric screwdriver So React, the most popular front-end library and used my hundreds of thousands of successful apps, is the ridiculous electric screwdriver? See how weird that sounds and makes it obvious you guys can't give an honest assessment?
- voidUpdate 7mo agoReact is a javascript library. Javascript needs its own runtime. Why not just write stuff in native windows controls and save having to run an entire javascript runtime for no reason?
- anthonylevine 7mo ago> Why not just write stuff in native windows controls and save having to run an entire JavaScript runtime for no reason? Idk, and I'm not saying it's not a good question, but it's irrelevant to the comparison in OP's comment.
- voidUpdate 7mo agoUsing an entire javascript runtime and framework to make your OS start menu is using a ridiculous overpowered electric screwdriver that strips heads. Using native windows controls is using a proper manual screwdriver that just works
- serf 7mo agoit's also just a numbers thing. react and more broadly JS developers are a dime-a-dozen as far as availability goes compared to winapi folks. which on one hand, good -- fuck microsoft and the monolith; on the other hand we get react start menus when we have to use microsoft.