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Why is that a bad argument? The author strongly dislikes React and so wrote an alternative that is radically more simple, which sounds like a perfectly sane arg

Why is that a bad argument? The author strongly dislikes React and so wrote an alternative that is radically more simple, which sounds like a perfectly sane argument.

bestest 7mo ago
Does the author dislike react? How about preact? Or maybe simply jsx? Or nextjs? There's nothing wrong with either of these if used correctly. Thus "hate" is a rather shallow argument.
- tobr 7mo ago
  Your argument that it’s a shallow argument is itself a shallow argument. ”I hate x” is not a technical argument anyway, it’s an emotional assessment.
  - mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
    But they're shilling a technical solution not an emotional one.
    - usrbinenv 7mo ago
      As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process. I didn't build Qite because I hate React, I built it because I knew exactly how I wanted things to work. But I do hate React and it's part of why I knew exactly how I wanted things to work.
      - mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
        > As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process And yet, plenty of people all around the world are able to get traction for their products without mentioning the hate of another. > I didn't build Qite because I hate React, I get that React being the most popular front-end framework means it's going to get it's fair share of criticism, but it's become pathetic the degree to which people have made hating it their personality. Even going so far as to market their own frameworks in terms of their personal feelings towards it. Nobody is saying humans aren't emotional, you're trying to deflect from being unable to disconnect your emotions from another library. It's React Derangement Syndrome.
        austin-cheney 7mo ago
        I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary. If I can write a spa that both 10x faster and 10x smaller without it then why would I bother with React? That isn’t any kind of syndrome. It’s me not wasting my time on vanity bullshit. I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large frameworks. They provide a vanity layer to hide behind for people who cannot introspect and cannot measure.
        mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
        > I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary. You're personal opinion is irrelevant to the point I'm making. And that's exactly my point. For whatever reason people can't stop talking about their dislike for it. Going so far as to literally have it be your framework's tagline. You can't even read a comment about Svelte without their need to bring React up. > I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large framework No it's because the needs of the web have dramatically changed in the last 20 years. That's why people reach for things to help them build front-end apps. It's almost comical how different it is.
- austin-cheney 7mo ago
  I will safely assume the author dislikes all that overly complex bloat bullshit and leave it at that. I am not going to autism this, as in invent a bunch of straw men to attack because there is some singular obsession silo of react-like fixations.
  - imtringued 7mo ago
    Calling preact bloated is pretty bold.
- johnisgood 7mo ago
  "hate" is not even an argument. It is obviously for those who dislike React or put it in another way: do not like to or would rather not work with React.
corstian 7mo ago
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Why is that a bad argument? The author strongly dislikes React and so wrote an alternative that is radically more simple, which sounds like a perfectly sane argument.

bestest 7mo ago

Does the author dislike react? How about preact? Or maybe simply jsx? Or nextjs? There's nothing wrong with either of these if used correctly. Thus "hate" is a rather shallow argument.

tobr 7mo ago
Your argument that it’s a shallow argument is itself a shallow argument. ”I hate x” is not a technical argument anyway, it’s an emotional assessment.
- mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
  But they're shilling a technical solution not an emotional one.
  - usrbinenv 7mo ago
    As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process. I didn't build Qite because I hate React, I built it because I knew exactly how I wanted things to work. But I do hate React and it's part of why I knew exactly how I wanted things to work.
    - mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
      > As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process And yet, plenty of people all around the world are able to get traction for their products without mentioning the hate of another. > I didn't build Qite because I hate React, I get that React being the most popular front-end framework means it's going to get it's fair share of criticism, but it's become pathetic the degree to which people have made hating it their personality. Even going so far as to market their own frameworks in terms of their personal feelings towards it. Nobody is saying humans aren't emotional, you're trying to deflect from being unable to disconnect your emotions from another library. It's React Derangement Syndrome.
      - austin-cheney 7mo ago
        I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary. If I can write a spa that both 10x faster and 10x smaller without it then why would I bother with React? That isn’t any kind of syndrome. It’s me not wasting my time on vanity bullshit. I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large frameworks. They provide a vanity layer to hide behind for people who cannot introspect and cannot measure.
        mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
        > I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary. You're personal opinion is irrelevant to the point I'm making. And that's exactly my point. For whatever reason people can't stop talking about their dislike for it. Going so far as to literally have it be your framework's tagline. You can't even read a comment about Svelte without their need to bring React up. > I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large framework No it's because the needs of the web have dramatically changed in the last 20 years. That's why people reach for things to help them build front-end apps. It's almost comical how different it is.
austin-cheney 7mo ago
I will safely assume the author dislikes all that overly complex bloat bullshit and leave it at that. I am not going to autism this, as in invent a bunch of straw men to attack because there is some singular obsession silo of react-like fixations.
- imtringued 7mo ago
  Calling preact bloated is pretty bold.
johnisgood 7mo ago
"hate" is not even an argument. It is obviously for those who dislike React or put it in another way: do not like to or would rather not work with React.

corstian 7mo ago

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