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OIC: https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/blob/main/telemetry/telemetry.go https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/blob/main/telemetry/teleme... Should be easy to nerf,

by tosti 7mo ago

OIC: https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/blob/main/telemetry/telemetry.go https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/blob/main/telemetry/teleme... Should be easy to nerf, but the build instructions are kinda vague. Clone, and then what? Something like "go build" or something I guess. Looks cool though

Habgdnv 7mo ago
I saw it, it is NOT spyware. It just sends a random UUID. It is just a personal disappointment for the fact that it is something so simple as a console player and yet connects somewhere. But that's just me. I grew up in other times. Also I just compiled mp3blaster and I am listening to it again. So cool!
- antisol 7mo ago
  If it phones home without explicitly asking the user for permission in advance, it's spyware.
gesis 7mo ago
There's a config variable and a cli flag to disable. That seems reasonable to me.
- userbinator 7mo ago
  to disable All such surveillance behaviour should strictly be OPT IN.
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userbinator 7mo ago
No personal data is collected IP address (which can be geolocated) along with a unique identifier is not considered "personal data"? This is basically a tracking cookie. It also seems to use HTTP, which is itself widely fingerprintable based on what request headers it sends.
GrayShade 7mo ago
It's gone: https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/commit/085734a86343a80176d2ca96a5af09a054e0511e https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/commit/085734a86343a80176d...
- taneliv 7mo ago
  Thanks for pointing this out, to me it seems quite a good response. I wouldn't mind opt-in telemetry, but possibly the participation rate would be too low to make use of it.
  - stavros 7mo ago
    My issue with telemetry is that 99% of software ends up not using it. Why have it? And definitely don't have it by default. Your users will come tell you what they want, making telemetry useless, especially when it's an OSS project you're mostly building for yourself.
    - rob74 7mo ago
      Except that telemetry can give you more complete (and foolproof) information than what users report. But yeah, that could also be solved by having debug info that users can attach to their report, the app doesn't have to "call home" for that...
      - stavros 7mo ago
        I agree, but it's a cost/benefit thing. Most OSS projects aren't big enough to do anything with the telemetry, so you're just paying in goodwill for no reason.
  - kgwxd 7mo ago
    Opt-in via extension, fine. Opt-in via flag, unreliable. The spyware code should never be anywhere near the main codebase.
- tosti 7mo ago
  Yay! Also, I hadn't noticed an entire section about building from source. Sorry about that. Good work!

by tosti 7mo ago

Habgdnv 7mo ago

I saw it, it is NOT spyware. It just sends a random UUID. It is just a personal disappointment for the fact that it is something so simple as a console player and yet connects somewhere. But that's just me. I grew up in other times. Also I just compiled mp3blaster and I am listening to it again. So cool!

antisol 7mo ago
If it phones home without explicitly asking the user for permission in advance, it's spyware.

gesis 7mo ago

There's a config variable and a cli flag to disable. That seems reasonable to me.

userbinator 7mo ago
to disable All such surveillance behaviour should strictly be OPT IN.

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userbinator 7mo ago

No personal data is collected IP address (which can be geolocated) along with a unique identifier is not considered "personal data"? This is basically a tracking cookie. It also seems to use HTTP, which is itself widely fingerprintable based on what request headers it sends.

GrayShade 7mo ago

It's gone: https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/commit/085734a86343a80176d2ca96a5af09a054e0511e https://github.com/bjarneo/cliamp/commit/085734a86343a80176d...

taneliv 7mo ago
Thanks for pointing this out, to me it seems quite a good response. I wouldn't mind opt-in telemetry, but possibly the participation rate would be too low to make use of it.
- stavros 7mo ago
  My issue with telemetry is that 99% of software ends up not using it. Why have it? And definitely don't have it by default. Your users will come tell you what they want, making telemetry useless, especially when it's an OSS project you're mostly building for yourself.
  - rob74 7mo ago
    Except that telemetry can give you more complete (and foolproof) information than what users report. But yeah, that could also be solved by having debug info that users can attach to their report, the app doesn't have to "call home" for that...
    - stavros 7mo ago
      I agree, but it's a cost/benefit thing. Most OSS projects aren't big enough to do anything with the telemetry, so you're just paying in goodwill for no reason.
- kgwxd 7mo ago
  Opt-in via extension, fine. Opt-in via flag, unreliable. The spyware code should never be anywhere near the main codebase.
tosti 7mo ago
Yay! Also, I hadn't noticed an entire section about building from source. Sorry about that. Good work!