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Poll: What are your primary motivations for doing side projects?

99 points by anujkk 14y ago

yuchi 14y ago
Maniacal need.
jaequery 14y ago
to become rich, so you can stop worrying about how to put bread on the table
bbissoon 14y ago
I do it to network. The money is a given - but it's the network I build with people across industries that give me the most benefit.
- anujkk 14y ago
  That's an interesting reason. May I know more about your side projects and how you go about networking in those industries?
  - bbissoon 14y ago
    I always bill my projects as if investing in a fast growing company. I often look for new restaurants, new housing developments, cultural institutions - but I don't exclude any project unless the client is overly aggressive. It's always important to ask them for a website that they like and this gives you a target. When you meet and beat that "ideal" website - they're often incredibly grateful. I never attempt to retire off my prospects :) I've done bakery and pastry shops and in addition to my project bid, I negotiate permanent discounts and even a few let me eat for free whenever I'm there. I've done furniture stores and in addition, I get permanent employee discount. I've pitched housing developments and in addition, I'll get employee rate for rent. Lawyers are the same - you can rely on them to help look over your contracts. They're just as important, so I often do exchange in hours. Just be a nice developer and realistic. We're blessed to know what many people don't and a few bad apples like to take advantage of their clients because of this. Be a breath of fresh air and watch the doors open.
bennyg 14y ago
I'm compelled to create. Side-project means a lot of things to me. It could be an app, or it could be a painting, or a series of short stories examining the human condition, or an EP of instrumental tracks using mathematics as the guiding compositional tool (this is something I have explored and am exploring more of). I wish side-project didn't have such preconceived connotations as "web app" like it seems to here. Does anyone else like creating non-tech things as their side projects?
- anujkk 14y ago
  If secretly recording and storing bollywood songs vocals in my voice counts, then yes. I used to sketch but I don't do it anymore.
  - bennyg 14y ago
    Haha, of course yes. You should start sketching again.
maresca 14y ago
I come up with ideas of things that should exist, but don't. Then my brain nags me with thoughts of that thing until I create it.
- sharemywin 14y ago
  I know exactly what you mean. It's like it want's to be born.
centdev 14y ago
I work on side projects (my own and others) for a number of different reasons. But primarily to see how I can solve problems. Working on non-time critical projects means you can get a bit more creative and explore a lot of different options to see which work the best rather than the quickest to integrate. Some of the side projects I work on add a little extra rev every month, some don't. The only side project that consumed a good deal of my time is the one that in fact doesn't make much money (I probably lose every month) but its the one with the largest user base and its the one that is more of a love rather than anything else.
hockeybias 14y ago
All of the above! http://HockeyBias.com http://HockeyBias.com
dmritard96 14y ago
So that I don't feel compelled to watch shitty TV - lol
stephengillie 14y ago
I love complexity and complex systems. I feel this irresistible urge to take everything and anything apart and understand the internal components and structure. I enjoy visualizing the components within hardware, devices, objects, buildings, and larger things.
thedangler 14y ago
I believe all of the above apply to me. If it brings me additional income, awesome, If not, No big deal, I will have learned a lot in my endeavor. During my path to completion I will have learned from scratch or improved my knowledge base in C#,Python, Flask, Twilio, S3, NodeJS, and my other technologies. This side project has been invaluable. Development is slowly coming along, But that is the way I like it.
h2s 14y ago
Apart from the things I voted for (fun, learning, new tech, itch-scratching, portfolio), I do it for creative control. As a developer with just a little over two years experience, the world of work only very rarely seems to give a shit what somebody like me thinks I should do. I spend most of my life building things that other people decided on, in the way they decided, to the schedule they decided. People with more experience and influence than me choose the features, the colours, the technologies, the equipment, the furniture, everything. Don't get me wrong: I don't have a problem with authority and I truly respect all those people and their decisions. But when I get home sometimes all I want to do is escape into something where I get to call the shots.
- yen223 14y ago
  I totally get this. To me, the ability to call your own shots is one of the most underrated perks of any job.
edw519 14y ago
something else, these people: For Alex, who asked, "Why can't I just hit F7 and get what I want?" For Jerry, who asked, "Why can't this software just do things the way WE do them?" For Sarah, who said, "We never have enough information! There's got to be an easier way to get information out of this system." For Tom, who said, "I've been dreaming of doing something like this for years, but never met a programmer who could make it happen." For Jolene, who said, "There must be a way to process our orders without spending $8 million on software." For Jeff, who said, "I just want to know what's on HBO at 8:00 without clicking 47 times." For Sue, who said, "Excel is the only thing we can get to do what we want. We love it, but we hate it. Can't someone just turn this into a real app?" For Joe, who said, "If I just knew which products I was losing money on, I could do something about it." For Jerry, who said, "If someone could just write an app to tell me when and where to mount my spools, everything else would fall into place." For Wendy, who asked, "I just want to know what to buy in November. Can't this system just tell me without 37 different reports?" For Fred, who said, "800 fucking emails every morning! Isn't there a better way to apply some intelligence to this without being a nuclear scientist?"
- eps 14y ago
  These aren't really side projects in a conventional sense of the term. This appears to be just some work-related stuff.
  - AdamTReineke 14y ago
    They seem pretty unrelated, so I'd bet they're side projects of some kind.
  - ascendant 14y ago
    Sounds like a list of justifications for things that become side projects
  - tgrass 14y ago
    ascendant, FYI looks like you're hellbanned
lifeformed 14y ago
All of the above. To learn, to have some fun, to hopefully make something profitable.
palehose 14y ago
My top priority when working on a side project is to work on something meaningful to me in ways that a full time job don't allow. Both on the technology side of getting to use tools I don't use full time, and working for non-profits or other organizations that would not have the ability to hire someone like me full time.
duqee 14y ago
Voted for Fun and testing new technologies, but like someone mentioned before, it is the creative control of a project. Not ruining a perfectly functional and UI designed application or website and have a client have an opinion that changes the whole dynamic of how it works. Reminds me of the oatmeal comic about the client and the web designer.
niyazpk 14y ago
One big motivation for me to work on side projects is that (since I don't expect them to be really successful or anything,) I don't have to be pedantically pragmatic about the choices I make. What I mean is that I get to do things the 'right' way, not the fastest-to-ship way. I get to write code in _my_ way, not in the way that business requires it to be. Doing it the right way _does_not_ mean that it will not involve hacks or clever techniques etc. It just means that I get more time and space to think about the choices I make and I get to model my data-structures, code and the visual design in the best way possible (for my definition of best). I like the fact that I can look at the same piece of code for a few days and refactor it like crazy. I have found that this eventually helps me in my day job too.
sideprojs 14y ago
I hate my job. I made some stupid mistakes in picking my first job out of college and it's pretty bad. I was shuffled into a position I didn't sign up for (business analyst work instead of development) and the culture is extremely toxic. I've been trying to get out but so far having this company on my resume has been a huge red flag to anyone hiring actual developers making it very hard for me to find something better. Side projects are my way of proving myself as a software developer. I'm trying to build up a GitHub profile of projects which I've seen through from start to finish. My current project is an excuse to learn about the Play! Framework and asynchronous web development with Akka actors.
- yuchi 14y ago
  What's your github account?
  - sideprojs 14y ago
    I'd rather not post it on this account as it would give away my IRL identity. Thanks for the reply though!
    - yuchi 14y ago
      Just curious about your projects ;)
      - sideprojs 14y ago
        Thanks for the curiosity. :) I'd just prefer that my badmouthing of my employer up above be traced back to me.
- oacgnol 14y ago
  Your willingness to learn new things on your own should help you get your foot in the door as far as interviews. It's a total developer's market right now, so I would encourage you to quit your job and start looking for a position.
geldedus 14y ago
for fun, money and glory :)
mercuryrising 14y ago
I want to win. I'm not sure what I want to win exactly, either a pat on the back from friends, an e-pat from imaginary friends on the internet, a double take when I tell someone what I did. I'm investing right now in my life, I'm 22 (23 in a week!) and I have no responsibilities. I'm unemployed (haven't looked for jobs, as I don't want to have a boss ever again). I'm investing my time (as I have no money) which is something that cannot always happen. I'm stretching the boundaries of my brain to do the things it can when no one tells me what to do (I like to think of it as wandering in a forest without a compass. It's lonely - none of my friends are thinking about the same problems I am at the depth that I'm thinking about them, but very rewarding. I'm investing to learn things that I will be unable to when I have money. I like to be ignorant as to how hard a challenge is. I watched an episode of numbers last year about prime numbers (not a computer scientist so I did not know many of the complexity things and ways of finding primes, just a lowly self-taught programmer), and boom, off to the races to solve the primes. I never once slowed down enough to say hey... people have been doing this for a long time... just me and a friend trying to be naive and find a route no one found before. I think that's what gives me a lot of momentum, not putting things into perspective, and gives me motivation to keep working. It's awesome to run the show, to stop working when I get bored, to see and understand the smallest to the biggest details in what you're doing. To know the rationale behind all the decisions. Even if they're small ones, and there's only 100 decisions to make, being able to say "This is why I did that." and give a specific, personal, reason i awesome, rather than making excuses or attributions for why something did or did not happen.
- unoti 14y ago
  Fantastic and inspiring. You should really consider getting this book: http://www.amazon.com/Algorithm-Design-Manual-Steve-Skiena/dp/0387948600 http://www.amazon.com/Algorithm-Design-Manual-Steve-Skiena/d... It's super fun to figure everything out for yourself, but I guarantee you that if you read this book, it'll blow your mind and have you off to the races trying a hundred fascinating things.
haberman 14y ago
To change the world. This is why people do startups, but my project is not something that could ever make money, and besides I'm not a businessman and prefer the stability and resources of working at an established company.
ALee 14y ago
Because when choosing between consumption or production, I choose production.
kirang1989 14y ago
Doing side-projects is like using the right side of my brain. It allows me to follow my heart rather than the logic of my head and do projects that sound interesting/challenging to me, in the language I choose to use, in the way I like to code. That is power to me.
a_niyaz 14y ago
Something else: Help people and community
axefrog 14y ago
Without funding, it's the only way I have to move towards the freedom to work on my own products and ideas full time. Can't quit my job to work on my own company unless I can also pay rent, buy food, etc.
- danneu 14y ago
  The very thought of working fulltime on my own products/ideas is intoxicating, a daydream that never ceases to get me to close all my browser tabs and open up Vim.
felipebueno 14y ago
1º: for fun 2º: To learn something new 3º: something else - I love/hate when some of my coworkers say something is impossible/very hard to do, or that I can't do it. I know they are aware that saying that is pretty much all they need to make me do the hard work for them (not related with our work) but I do it anyway. =P
fduran 14y ago
All of the above.
prezjordan 14y ago
Student here, it's a mixture of filling my portfolio and trying out new technologies. If I limit my learning to the knowledge shared in class - I'd know next to nothing. Side projects give me the ability to perfect my craft, learning some awesome (fresh) technologies, and promote myself when searching for internships - which is coming up soon!
edwinnathaniel 14y ago
Learn new tools, learn the marketing aspect (side projects with no users seem less challenging for me), and make some profit.
jacek 14y ago
A few of answers match actually. I do it "for fun", "to earn some side income", "to try out some new technologies", "to learn sth new", "to have some projects in my portfolio".
j45 14y ago
When faced with a situation where software would make life easier: Creating for the sake of creation.
ZanderEarth32 14y ago
It's definitely not money (but that would be nice :D) Definitely not "fame", I don't like a lot of attention. I guess, some kind of mix of boredom and an urge to learn something new.
jkoschei 14y ago
Edification.
rcchen 14y ago
Working on a side project definitely is more for an investment in myself, in that if I'm using my time to learn something that I find interesting and accomplish something that I find equally interesting, then it can only be beneficial for myself. Recently I've taken to using side projects to explore new (to me) stacks, with the latest being Flask.py with a Mongo DB in the back. In fact, the only downside is that sometimes I might forego my actual work (I'm looking at you, PSETs!) or sleep because I'm so into a project that I want to get it done.
bpatrianakos 14y ago
A few of the above and something else: Side projects help me stay sane. When I'm working for others and building things that are mind numbingly simple or tedious I escape to my side projects to prevent burnout. They keep me sharp, help me learn, and I love the rush of putting a new project online no matter how half baked or simple it is or even if it is something like yet another todo list app (of which I've made one so far).
- digitalWestie 14y ago
  For me it's a mix of the above - but also this. I guess the answer you want to vote here is: "to exercise my creativity"
yason 14y ago
Something else: The joy of flow in those times when you can't find it at work. When there's interesting stuff going on at work, I don't have side projects. When there's nothing happening but boring stuff, I want do stuff I don't know how it works, to make something, and that's when I start writing some idea into code late in the evening at home.
Nursie 14y ago
Tax purposes :) Only half kidding. In the UK, as a contractor/freelancer, it's easier to make the case that your company is a going concern in its own right (rather than a simple tax-avoidance shell) if you have projects other than the main one you're working on for a client. Particularly if you're working on-location for extended periods. I also want to learn new things, build up a portfolio and eventually start a software company. So I guess all of the above?
njharman 14y ago
I'm not sure "boredom" is the best word. Maybe "need", or "creative outlet." When I don't code in my day job for few days/weeks I find my self coding, anything. Similar to how I suspect writers feel the need to write, and musicians to make music.
envex 14y ago
I'd say a little bit of each of the options. I do it for different reasons at different times.
jtheory 14y ago
To procrastinate, to put it a bit uncharitably. Though to dig slightly deeper -- urges to procrastinate what I "should" be working on appear when I face a hard problem with no hook on it (some hard problems drag me in; others push me away -- if I try sometimes I can convert the latter to the former just by breaking it down and choosing a place to start, but some problems are just boring-hard and that can't be fixed...). Those urges often come in the form of "what OTHER more inviting problem can I solve?", and they are friggin' everywhere. I already have a side-project that has lots of actual customers hoping for new features and so on, though, so it's usually pretty obvious to me that leaping into new thing #15 would be a bad idea. I have lots of domains names for them, though. :P One of these days I will find someone I can pay to mostly take over that main side project, and then I'll allow myself to tinker with new things... I'm looking forward to that, actually. But finding someone and getting them started is/will be hard, so when I think about that task I see lots of other more interesting problems around... (Side note: anyone here know lots of Java and music theory, and want a spare-time income stream?)
hgilani 14y ago
I am tired of corporate way of building software with long development cycles and awful and aging stacks. Doing a side project allows me to learn cool new stuff, provides me a playground where I can do mistakes and learn and most importantly it allows me to do "customer development" which is essential for any viable startup.
rbchv 14y ago
Because it's fun to create stuff, because I'm an entrepreneur at heart, and to make extra money (and maybe one day make this my full time gig).
kenshiro_o 14y ago
I want to have something I can call my own while learning along the way, akin to passage to adulthood. Maybe we should call it the passage to entrepreneur-hood!
zoom6628 14y ago
Helping my son with his PhD project. If it works then we have something to help the world.....what more motivation does one need :-)
SiVal 14y ago
Something else. It's sort of a craving. Why am I drawn to the refrigerator late at night? "For fun" doesn't seem to cover it. "Just for the sake of doing something" sounds pathetic--as if I were bored, as if there were nothing good on TV, so what else am I going to do? "To scratch my own itch" would be perfect, except that this poll implies that the itch is some external problem. For me, the itch is a craving for the flow state of working on a hard problem whose solution matters.
- bpatrianakos 14y ago
  This should've been top comment. Nails it for me. I couldn't find the words so thank you for finding them for me.
rooshdi 14y ago
To do different.
ommunist 14y ago
Way back 14 years ago, I did side projects as a source of primary income. Now I have no time for side projects, but I'd love to have one to scratch my own itch or two.
elf25 14y ago
Cha-ching!
dev1n 14y ago
to be a round peg in a square hole
SiegfriedEhret 14y ago
To learn new stuff
npsimons 14y ago
All of the above?

99 points by anujkk 14y ago

yuchi 14y ago

Maniacal need.

jaequery 14y ago

to become rich, so you can stop worrying about how to put bread on the table

bbissoon 14y ago

I do it to network. The money is a given - but it's the network I build with people across industries that give me the most benefit.

anujkk 14y ago
That's an interesting reason. May I know more about your side projects and how you go about networking in those industries?
- bbissoon 14y ago
  I always bill my projects as if investing in a fast growing company. I often look for new restaurants, new housing developments, cultural institutions - but I don't exclude any project unless the client is overly aggressive. It's always important to ask them for a website that they like and this gives you a target. When you meet and beat that "ideal" website - they're often incredibly grateful. I never attempt to retire off my prospects :) I've done bakery and pastry shops and in addition to my project bid, I negotiate permanent discounts and even a few let me eat for free whenever I'm there. I've done furniture stores and in addition, I get permanent employee discount. I've pitched housing developments and in addition, I'll get employee rate for rent. Lawyers are the same - you can rely on them to help look over your contracts. They're just as important, so I often do exchange in hours. Just be a nice developer and realistic. We're blessed to know what many people don't and a few bad apples like to take advantage of their clients because of this. Be a breath of fresh air and watch the doors open.

bennyg 14y ago

I'm compelled to create. Side-project means a lot of things to me. It could be an app, or it could be a painting, or a series of short stories examining the human condition, or an EP of instrumental tracks using mathematics as the guiding compositional tool (this is something I have explored and am exploring more of). I wish side-project didn't have such preconceived connotations as "web app" like it seems to here. Does anyone else like creating non-tech things as their side projects?

anujkk 14y ago
If secretly recording and storing bollywood songs vocals in my voice counts, then yes. I used to sketch but I don't do it anymore.
- bennyg 14y ago
  Haha, of course yes. You should start sketching again.

maresca 14y ago

I come up with ideas of things that should exist, but don't. Then my brain nags me with thoughts of that thing until I create it.

sharemywin 14y ago
I know exactly what you mean. It's like it want's to be born.

centdev 14y ago

I work on side projects (my own and others) for a number of different reasons. But primarily to see how I can solve problems. Working on non-time critical projects means you can get a bit more creative and explore a lot of different options to see which work the best rather than the quickest to integrate. Some of the side projects I work on add a little extra rev every month, some don't. The only side project that consumed a good deal of my time is the one that in fact doesn't make much money (I probably lose every month) but its the one with the largest user base and its the one that is more of a love rather than anything else.

hockeybias 14y ago

All of the above! http://HockeyBias.com http://HockeyBias.com

dmritard96 14y ago

So that I don't feel compelled to watch shitty TV - lol

stephengillie 14y ago

I love complexity and complex systems. I feel this irresistible urge to take everything and anything apart and understand the internal components and structure. I enjoy visualizing the components within hardware, devices, objects, buildings, and larger things.

thedangler 14y ago

I believe all of the above apply to me. If it brings me additional income, awesome, If not, No big deal, I will have learned a lot in my endeavor. During my path to completion I will have learned from scratch or improved my knowledge base in C#,Python, Flask, Twilio, S3, NodeJS, and my other technologies. This side project has been invaluable. Development is slowly coming along, But that is the way I like it.

h2s 14y ago

Apart from the things I voted for (fun, learning, new tech, itch-scratching, portfolio), I do it for creative control. As a developer with just a little over two years experience, the world of work only very rarely seems to give a shit what somebody like me thinks I should do. I spend most of my life building things that other people decided on, in the way they decided, to the schedule they decided. People with more experience and influence than me choose the features, the colours, the technologies, the equipment, the furniture, everything. Don't get me wrong: I don't have a problem with authority and I truly respect all those people and their decisions. But when I get home sometimes all I want to do is escape into something where I get to call the shots.

yen223 14y ago
I totally get this. To me, the ability to call your own shots is one of the most underrated perks of any job.

edw519 14y ago

something else, these people: For Alex, who asked, "Why can't I just hit F7 and get what I want?" For Jerry, who asked, "Why can't this software just do things the way WE do them?" For Sarah, who said, "We never have enough information! There's got to be an easier way to get information out of this system." For Tom, who said, "I've been dreaming of doing something like this for years, but never met a programmer who could make it happen." For Jolene, who said, "There must be a way to process our orders without spending $8 million on software." For Jeff, who said, "I just want to know what's on HBO at 8:00 without clicking 47 times." For Sue, who said, "Excel is the only thing we can get to do what we want. We love it, but we hate it. Can't someone just turn this into a real app?" For Joe, who said, "If I just knew which products I was losing money on, I could do something about it." For Jerry, who said, "If someone could just write an app to tell me when and where to mount my spools, everything else would fall into place." For Wendy, who asked, "I just want to know what to buy in November. Can't this system just tell me without 37 different reports?" For Fred, who said, "800 fucking emails every morning! Isn't there a better way to apply some intelligence to this without being a nuclear scientist?"

eps 14y ago
These aren't really side projects in a conventional sense of the term. This appears to be just some work-related stuff.
- AdamTReineke 14y ago
  They seem pretty unrelated, so I'd bet they're side projects of some kind.
- ascendant 14y ago
  Sounds like a list of justifications for things that become side projects
- tgrass 14y ago
  ascendant, FYI looks like you're hellbanned

lifeformed 14y ago

All of the above. To learn, to have some fun, to hopefully make something profitable.

palehose 14y ago

My top priority when working on a side project is to work on something meaningful to me in ways that a full time job don't allow. Both on the technology side of getting to use tools I don't use full time, and working for non-profits or other organizations that would not have the ability to hire someone like me full time.

duqee 14y ago

Voted for Fun and testing new technologies, but like someone mentioned before, it is the creative control of a project. Not ruining a perfectly functional and UI designed application or website and have a client have an opinion that changes the whole dynamic of how it works. Reminds me of the oatmeal comic about the client and the web designer.

niyazpk 14y ago

One big motivation for me to work on side projects is that (since I don't expect them to be really successful or anything,) I don't have to be pedantically pragmatic about the choices I make. What I mean is that I get to do things the 'right' way, not the fastest-to-ship way. I get to write code in _my_ way, not in the way that business requires it to be. Doing it the right way _does_not_ mean that it will not involve hacks or clever techniques etc. It just means that I get more time and space to think about the choices I make and I get to model my data-structures, code and the visual design in the best way possible (for my definition of best). I like the fact that I can look at the same piece of code for a few days and refactor it like crazy. I have found that this eventually helps me in my day job too.

sideprojs 14y ago

I hate my job. I made some stupid mistakes in picking my first job out of college and it's pretty bad. I was shuffled into a position I didn't sign up for (business analyst work instead of development) and the culture is extremely toxic. I've been trying to get out but so far having this company on my resume has been a huge red flag to anyone hiring actual developers making it very hard for me to find something better. Side projects are my way of proving myself as a software developer. I'm trying to build up a GitHub profile of projects which I've seen through from start to finish. My current project is an excuse to learn about the Play! Framework and asynchronous web development with Akka actors.

yuchi 14y ago
What's your github account?
- sideprojs 14y ago
  I'd rather not post it on this account as it would give away my IRL identity. Thanks for the reply though!
  - yuchi 14y ago
    Just curious about your projects ;)
    - sideprojs 14y ago
      Thanks for the curiosity. :) I'd just prefer that my badmouthing of my employer up above be traced back to me.
oacgnol 14y ago
Your willingness to learn new things on your own should help you get your foot in the door as far as interviews. It's a total developer's market right now, so I would encourage you to quit your job and start looking for a position.

geldedus 14y ago

for fun, money and glory :)

mercuryrising 14y ago

I want to win. I'm not sure what I want to win exactly, either a pat on the back from friends, an e-pat from imaginary friends on the internet, a double take when I tell someone what I did. I'm investing right now in my life, I'm 22 (23 in a week!) and I have no responsibilities. I'm unemployed (haven't looked for jobs, as I don't want to have a boss ever again). I'm investing my time (as I have no money) which is something that cannot always happen. I'm stretching the boundaries of my brain to do the things it can when no one tells me what to do (I like to think of it as wandering in a forest without a compass. It's lonely - none of my friends are thinking about the same problems I am at the depth that I'm thinking about them, but very rewarding. I'm investing to learn things that I will be unable to when I have money. I like to be ignorant as to how hard a challenge is. I watched an episode of numbers last year about prime numbers (not a computer scientist so I did not know many of the complexity things and ways of finding primes, just a lowly self-taught programmer), and boom, off to the races to solve the primes. I never once slowed down enough to say hey... people have been doing this for a long time... just me and a friend trying to be naive and find a route no one found before. I think that's what gives me a lot of momentum, not putting things into perspective, and gives me motivation to keep working. It's awesome to run the show, to stop working when I get bored, to see and understand the smallest to the biggest details in what you're doing. To know the rationale behind all the decisions. Even if they're small ones, and there's only 100 decisions to make, being able to say "This is why I did that." and give a specific, personal, reason i awesome, rather than making excuses or attributions for why something did or did not happen.

unoti 14y ago
Fantastic and inspiring. You should really consider getting this book: http://www.amazon.com/Algorithm-Design-Manual-Steve-Skiena/dp/0387948600 http://www.amazon.com/Algorithm-Design-Manual-Steve-Skiena/d... It's super fun to figure everything out for yourself, but I guarantee you that if you read this book, it'll blow your mind and have you off to the races trying a hundred fascinating things.

haberman 14y ago

To change the world. This is why people do startups, but my project is not something that could ever make money, and besides I'm not a businessman and prefer the stability and resources of working at an established company.

ALee 14y ago

Because when choosing between consumption or production, I choose production.

kirang1989 14y ago

Doing side-projects is like using the right side of my brain. It allows me to follow my heart rather than the logic of my head and do projects that sound interesting/challenging to me, in the language I choose to use, in the way I like to code. That is power to me.

a_niyaz 14y ago

Something else: Help people and community

axefrog 14y ago

Without funding, it's the only way I have to move towards the freedom to work on my own products and ideas full time. Can't quit my job to work on my own company unless I can also pay rent, buy food, etc.

danneu 14y ago
The very thought of working fulltime on my own products/ideas is intoxicating, a daydream that never ceases to get me to close all my browser tabs and open up Vim.

felipebueno 14y ago

1º: for fun 2º: To learn something new 3º: something else - I love/hate when some of my coworkers say something is impossible/very hard to do, or that I can't do it. I know they are aware that saying that is pretty much all they need to make me do the hard work for them (not related with our work) but I do it anyway. =P

fduran 14y ago

All of the above.

prezjordan 14y ago

Student here, it's a mixture of filling my portfolio and trying out new technologies. If I limit my learning to the knowledge shared in class - I'd know next to nothing. Side projects give me the ability to perfect my craft, learning some awesome (fresh) technologies, and promote myself when searching for internships - which is coming up soon!

edwinnathaniel 14y ago

Learn new tools, learn the marketing aspect (side projects with no users seem less challenging for me), and make some profit.

jacek 14y ago

A few of answers match actually. I do it "for fun", "to earn some side income", "to try out some new technologies", "to learn sth new", "to have some projects in my portfolio".

j45 14y ago

When faced with a situation where software would make life easier: Creating for the sake of creation.

ZanderEarth32 14y ago

It's definitely not money (but that would be nice :D) Definitely not "fame", I don't like a lot of attention. I guess, some kind of mix of boredom and an urge to learn something new.

jkoschei 14y ago

Edification.

rcchen 14y ago

Working on a side project definitely is more for an investment in myself, in that if I'm using my time to learn something that I find interesting and accomplish something that I find equally interesting, then it can only be beneficial for myself. Recently I've taken to using side projects to explore new (to me) stacks, with the latest being Flask.py with a Mongo DB in the back. In fact, the only downside is that sometimes I might forego my actual work (I'm looking at you, PSETs!) or sleep because I'm so into a project that I want to get it done.

bpatrianakos 14y ago

A few of the above and something else: Side projects help me stay sane. When I'm working for others and building things that are mind numbingly simple or tedious I escape to my side projects to prevent burnout. They keep me sharp, help me learn, and I love the rush of putting a new project online no matter how half baked or simple it is or even if it is something like yet another todo list app (of which I've made one so far).

digitalWestie 14y ago
For me it's a mix of the above - but also this. I guess the answer you want to vote here is: "to exercise my creativity"

yason 14y ago

Something else: The joy of flow in those times when you can't find it at work. When there's interesting stuff going on at work, I don't have side projects. When there's nothing happening but boring stuff, I want do stuff I don't know how it works, to make something, and that's when I start writing some idea into code late in the evening at home.

Nursie 14y ago

Tax purposes :) Only half kidding. In the UK, as a contractor/freelancer, it's easier to make the case that your company is a going concern in its own right (rather than a simple tax-avoidance shell) if you have projects other than the main one you're working on for a client. Particularly if you're working on-location for extended periods. I also want to learn new things, build up a portfolio and eventually start a software company. So I guess all of the above?

njharman 14y ago

I'm not sure "boredom" is the best word. Maybe "need", or "creative outlet." When I don't code in my day job for few days/weeks I find my self coding, anything. Similar to how I suspect writers feel the need to write, and musicians to make music.

envex 14y ago

I'd say a little bit of each of the options. I do it for different reasons at different times.

jtheory 14y ago

To procrastinate, to put it a bit uncharitably. Though to dig slightly deeper -- urges to procrastinate what I "should" be working on appear when I face a hard problem with no hook on it (some hard problems drag me in; others push me away -- if I try sometimes I can convert the latter to the former just by breaking it down and choosing a place to start, but some problems are just boring-hard and that can't be fixed...). Those urges often come in the form of "what OTHER more inviting problem can I solve?", and they are friggin' everywhere. I already have a side-project that has lots of actual customers hoping for new features and so on, though, so it's usually pretty obvious to me that leaping into new thing #15 would be a bad idea. I have lots of domains names for them, though. :P One of these days I will find someone I can pay to mostly take over that main side project, and then I'll allow myself to tinker with new things... I'm looking forward to that, actually. But finding someone and getting them started is/will be hard, so when I think about that task I see lots of other more interesting problems around... (Side note: anyone here know lots of Java and music theory, and want a spare-time income stream?)

hgilani 14y ago

I am tired of corporate way of building software with long development cycles and awful and aging stacks. Doing a side project allows me to learn cool new stuff, provides me a playground where I can do mistakes and learn and most importantly it allows me to do "customer development" which is essential for any viable startup.

rbchv 14y ago

Because it's fun to create stuff, because I'm an entrepreneur at heart, and to make extra money (and maybe one day make this my full time gig).

kenshiro_o 14y ago

I want to have something I can call my own while learning along the way, akin to passage to adulthood. Maybe we should call it the passage to entrepreneur-hood!

zoom6628 14y ago

Helping my son with his PhD project. If it works then we have something to help the world.....what more motivation does one need :-)

SiVal 14y ago

Something else. It's sort of a craving. Why am I drawn to the refrigerator late at night? "For fun" doesn't seem to cover it. "Just for the sake of doing something" sounds pathetic--as if I were bored, as if there were nothing good on TV, so what else am I going to do? "To scratch my own itch" would be perfect, except that this poll implies that the itch is some external problem. For me, the itch is a craving for the flow state of working on a hard problem whose solution matters.

bpatrianakos 14y ago
This should've been top comment. Nails it for me. I couldn't find the words so thank you for finding them for me.

rooshdi 14y ago

To do different.

ommunist 14y ago

Way back 14 years ago, I did side projects as a source of primary income. Now I have no time for side projects, but I'd love to have one to scratch my own itch or two.

elf25 14y ago

Cha-ching!

dev1n 14y ago

to be a round peg in a square hole

SiegfriedEhret 14y ago

To learn new stuff

npsimons 14y ago

All of the above?