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I've seen rust codebases that would make you cry along with perfectly well architected applications written in both perl and php. You're just playing into commo

I've seen rust codebases that would make you cry along with perfectly well architected applications written in both perl and php. You're just playing into common language silo stereotypes. A competent developer can author code in their language of choice whatever that may be. I'm not sure "reaching for AI" implies anything besides that some folk prefer that tool for their work. I personally don't have a tendency to reach for AI, but that doesn't somehow imply they or I are "lesser" because of it.

whattheheckheck 7mo ago
It does to executives who sign the checks to ai usage contracts
- drzaiusx11 7mo ago
  The implication being that execs want folks who "reach for AI" to meet some arbitrary contract targets? Sounds like optimizing for the wrong things but I've seen crazier schemes. In my opinion the end goal of those execs pushing AI is the age old goal of seizing the means of production (of software in this case) by reducing the worker to a machine. It'll likely play out in their favor honestly, as it has many times in the past.
- throwaway27448 7mo ago
  I don't know what an AI usage contract is but it sounds like corporate suicide.
throwaway27448 7mo ago
> You're just playing into common language silo stereotypes. Yes, the stereotype is what I brought up on purpose. > A competent developer can author code in their language of choice whatever that may be. I'm not sure "reaching for AI" implies anything besides that some folk prefer that tool for their work. More relevantly, a competent developer can use AI just like one can use PHP. It buys enormous value in the short term. > I personally don't have a tendency to reach for AI, but that doesn't somehow imply they or I are "lesser" because of it. Yes, just like people who use PHP can make excellent programs. Nobody in this conversation implied anyone was lesser than another.
- drzaiusx11 7mo ago
  So you're saying reputations of "atrociousness" in both cases (AI users and implied poor quality producing software devs) aren't warranted? That wasn't clear in your post (at least to me.) Simply pointing out a correlation of negative stereotypes without refuting evidence just helps reinforce them.

whattheheckheck 7mo ago

It does to executives who sign the checks to ai usage contracts

drzaiusx11 7mo ago
The implication being that execs want folks who "reach for AI" to meet some arbitrary contract targets? Sounds like optimizing for the wrong things but I've seen crazier schemes. In my opinion the end goal of those execs pushing AI is the age old goal of seizing the means of production (of software in this case) by reducing the worker to a machine. It'll likely play out in their favor honestly, as it has many times in the past.
throwaway27448 7mo ago
I don't know what an AI usage contract is but it sounds like corporate suicide.

throwaway27448 7mo ago

> You're just playing into common language silo stereotypes. Yes, the stereotype is what I brought up on purpose. > A competent developer can author code in their language of choice whatever that may be. I'm not sure "reaching for AI" implies anything besides that some folk prefer that tool for their work. More relevantly, a competent developer can use AI just like one can use PHP. It buys enormous value in the short term. > I personally don't have a tendency to reach for AI, but that doesn't somehow imply they or I are "lesser" because of it. Yes, just like people who use PHP can make excellent programs. Nobody in this conversation implied anyone was lesser than another.

drzaiusx11 7mo ago
So you're saying reputations of "atrociousness" in both cases (AI users and implied poor quality producing software devs) aren't warranted? That wasn't clear in your post (at least to me.) Simply pointing out a correlation of negative stereotypes without refuting evidence just helps reinforce them.