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Canadians not being able to disable Amber alerts sent at presidential level all the time might also be interested to be able to sleep again...

by RRRA 7mo ago

leca 7mo ago
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EmbarrassedHelp 7mo ago
Does GrapheneOS fix that problem as well? Because at some point sending everything at the max alert level is going to get people killed. The max alert level should be reserved only for immediately threats to your life in the nearby area, because otherwise you train people to ignore the alerts.
- Telaneo 7mo ago
  > Wireless alerts are completely optional since GrapheneOS adds a toggle for the otherwise mandatory presidential alert type. This is particularly useful in Canada where the government abuses the system and sends every type of alert as a presidential alert to stop users from being able to opt out of weather and amber alerts. https://grapheneos.org/features#other-features https://grapheneos.org/features#other-features
  - wolvoleo 7mo ago
    Umm Canada doesn't even have a president, lol. But pretty nasty to use that feature as an override yeah.
    - _blk 6mo ago
      Not yet ;)
      - bitwize 6mo ago
        "We've got some great people, phenomenal people, up there in Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver... we're working with them on ideas for what it's gonna be like when I'm their President. Gonna be the best era ever in Canadian history. You're gonna see success like you wouldn't believe."
  - EmbarrassedHelp 6mo ago
    I wonder if GrapheneOS or someone modifying it could add a feature that would filter with keyword matching or something to determine what priority an alter should actually be.
    - pwnna 6mo ago
      I actually made this patch a while ago on lineageos but lost the patch. It is a very invasive change where I filtered for the world amber and the French equivalent...
lbourdages 7mo ago
I don't understand what is their thought process. Am I supposed to get up and start driving in hopes of finding the kid(s)? By the time I wake up in the morning, usually, they have been found. Just set it so that it doesn't bypass do-not-disturb and it'll have the same result while not disturbing sleep. Those awake will get the notification, and for the others, they can see it in the morning.
- rogerrogerr 7mo ago
  In the US, my state had a spate of sending amber alerts at 2am, mostly for old people escaping from old people homes. I’m sure a ton of people just turned them off. They did ridiculous damage to the system. I thought about starting an Amber Alert Milita; so any amber alert gets a fully armed response from the kind of people who join militias. That would have probably made the cops think twice about sending stupid alerts for stupid things. Brenda escaping the memory care center yesterday morning (!) does not mean you should warn us all to watch out for her the next morning at 2am. Unless she’s found an axe and is going door to door chopping people up. That’s the only reason to send that alert. I bet they killed a few people with heart attacks by setting off sirens in every bedroom in the county.
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  - hsbauauvhabzb 6mo ago
    I live in another part of the world and have never heard of an amber alert being sent, I assumed they were for nuclear/missile events. Condolences for the subjects, but it’s bonkers they’re used to spam people about vulnerable individuals who aren’t posing an active threat.
    - dizhn 6mo ago
      It's an upper case A, Amber. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_alert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_alert
bobsmooth 7mo ago
My Samsung can disable amber alerts.
wolvoleo 7mo ago
You can disable the app involved to block all wireless alerts. You'll need to use adb though. I did that too because the government here doesn't respect the on/off toggle for alerts and they constantly send alerts when it rains or storms a bit. They come through even when emergency alerts are switched off completely in settings, unless that app is removed. Sometimes they do it even twice in the same week. They're probably worried about a repeat of the Valencia floods and getting blamed. So they're constantly covering their asses. But I'm sick of them crying wolf all the time. We don't have this amber thing but it works the same way (prioritised cell broadcasting) so it can be blocked. The app is com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver on Android 13 and above But yeah I view this in the same vein as the governments wanting to hijack our phones for spying on us (chatcontrol) or forced identification (the topic of this article). I'm sick and tired of my phone taking orders from other people than me.
rcakebread 7mo ago
I was trying to figure out what Trump did this time, only to find out you don't know Canada doesn't have a president.
wyager 7mo ago
And California keeps adding these bizarre racialized versions of amber alerts https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Ebony-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Ebony-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Feather-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Feather-Alert/
- Biganon 6mo ago
  WTF is wrong with the US
  - rationalist 6mo ago
    The same thing that is wrong with every country: they contain people (some of which are racist).
- parineum 6mo ago
  https://x.com/CHPAlerts/status/2034793526043812085 https://x.com/CHPAlerts/status/2034793526043812085 This is crazy.
- y0eswddl 6mo ago
  are they actually that bizarre...? why so?
  - vscode-rest 6mo ago
    One bizarre thing I read in both is a proposition that women aren’t people.
    - vinay427 6mo ago
      [dead]
    - kbelder 6mo ago
      "A Feather Alert is a resource available to law enforcement agencies investigating the suspicious or unexplainable disappearance of an indigenous woman or indigenous person." That is so bizarre. How embarrassing.
kderbyma 6mo ago
....You are a bot...this is a stupid NPC fad the past few days....Real People were not affected...If I see one more complaint about this, I am going to start reporting every poster as spam and bot traffic....

Canadians not being able to disable Amber alerts sent at presidential level all the time might also be interested to be able to sleep again...

by RRRA 7mo ago

Canadians not being able to disable Amber alerts sent at presidential level all the time might also be interested to be able to sleep again...

leca 7mo ago

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EmbarrassedHelp 7mo ago

Does GrapheneOS fix that problem as well? Because at some point sending everything at the max alert level is going to get people killed. The max alert level should be reserved only for immediately threats to your life in the nearby area, because otherwise you train people to ignore the alerts.

Telaneo 7mo ago
> Wireless alerts are completely optional since GrapheneOS adds a toggle for the otherwise mandatory presidential alert type. This is particularly useful in Canada where the government abuses the system and sends every type of alert as a presidential alert to stop users from being able to opt out of weather and amber alerts. https://grapheneos.org/features#other-features https://grapheneos.org/features#other-features
- wolvoleo 7mo ago
  Umm Canada doesn't even have a president, lol. But pretty nasty to use that feature as an override yeah.
  - _blk 6mo ago
    Not yet ;)
    - bitwize 6mo ago
      "We've got some great people, phenomenal people, up there in Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver... we're working with them on ideas for what it's gonna be like when I'm their President. Gonna be the best era ever in Canadian history. You're gonna see success like you wouldn't believe."
- EmbarrassedHelp 6mo ago
  I wonder if GrapheneOS or someone modifying it could add a feature that would filter with keyword matching or something to determine what priority an alter should actually be.
  - pwnna 6mo ago
    I actually made this patch a while ago on lineageos but lost the patch. It is a very invasive change where I filtered for the world amber and the French equivalent...

lbourdages 7mo ago

I don't understand what is their thought process. Am I supposed to get up and start driving in hopes of finding the kid(s)? By the time I wake up in the morning, usually, they have been found. Just set it so that it doesn't bypass do-not-disturb and it'll have the same result while not disturbing sleep. Those awake will get the notification, and for the others, they can see it in the morning.

rogerrogerr 7mo ago
In the US, my state had a spate of sending amber alerts at 2am, mostly for old people escaping from old people homes. I’m sure a ton of people just turned them off. They did ridiculous damage to the system. I thought about starting an Amber Alert Milita; so any amber alert gets a fully armed response from the kind of people who join militias. That would have probably made the cops think twice about sending stupid alerts for stupid things. Brenda escaping the memory care center yesterday morning (!) does not mean you should warn us all to watch out for her the next morning at 2am. Unless she’s found an axe and is going door to door chopping people up. That’s the only reason to send that alert. I bet they killed a few people with heart attacks by setting off sirens in every bedroom in the county.
- deleted 6mo ago
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- hsbauauvhabzb 6mo ago
  I live in another part of the world and have never heard of an amber alert being sent, I assumed they were for nuclear/missile events. Condolences for the subjects, but it’s bonkers they’re used to spam people about vulnerable individuals who aren’t posing an active threat.
  - dizhn 6mo ago
    It's an upper case A, Amber. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_alert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_alert

bobsmooth 7mo ago

My Samsung can disable amber alerts.

wolvoleo 7mo ago

You can disable the app involved to block all wireless alerts. You'll need to use adb though. I did that too because the government here doesn't respect the on/off toggle for alerts and they constantly send alerts when it rains or storms a bit. They come through even when emergency alerts are switched off completely in settings, unless that app is removed. Sometimes they do it even twice in the same week. They're probably worried about a repeat of the Valencia floods and getting blamed. So they're constantly covering their asses. But I'm sick of them crying wolf all the time. We don't have this amber thing but it works the same way (prioritised cell broadcasting) so it can be blocked. The app is com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver on Android 13 and above But yeah I view this in the same vein as the governments wanting to hijack our phones for spying on us (chatcontrol) or forced identification (the topic of this article). I'm sick and tired of my phone taking orders from other people than me.

rcakebread 7mo ago

I was trying to figure out what Trump did this time, only to find out you don't know Canada doesn't have a president.

wyager 7mo ago

And California keeps adding these bizarre racialized versions of amber alerts https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Ebony-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Ebony-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Feather-Alert/ https://www.chp.ca.gov/news-alerts/alerts/Feather-Alert/

Biganon 6mo ago
WTF is wrong with the US
- rationalist 6mo ago
  The same thing that is wrong with every country: they contain people (some of which are racist).
parineum 6mo ago
https://x.com/CHPAlerts/status/2034793526043812085 https://x.com/CHPAlerts/status/2034793526043812085 This is crazy.
y0eswddl 6mo ago
are they actually that bizarre...? why so?
- vscode-rest 6mo ago
  One bizarre thing I read in both is a proposition that women aren’t people.
  - vinay427 6mo ago
    [dead]
  - kbelder 6mo ago
    "A Feather Alert is a resource available to law enforcement agencies investigating the suspicious or unexplainable disappearance of an indigenous woman or indigenous person." That is so bizarre. How embarrassing.

kderbyma 6mo ago

....You are a bot...this is a stupid NPC fad the past few days....Real People were not affected...If I see one more complaint about this, I am going to start reporting every poster as spam and bot traffic....