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That's nothing, Israelis happily kill their own Prime Ministers. But obviously I condemn Iran and I condemn Israel killing peaceful civilians, the law and the m
by donkeybeer 7mo ago
That's nothing, Israelis happily kill their own Prime Ministers. But obviously I condemn Iran and I condemn Israel killing peaceful civilians, the law and the morality applies to all. I mentioned killing civilians in foreign countries as it is strictly worse, as bad as killing innocent people in your own country is, at least it also does not involve the violation of sovereignty and peace of random foreign countries.
It is well known that IDF also uses civilians as human shields, so it is quite strange that you only mention the evils and immoral acts committed by one country and not both. None of the countries in that region are very nice by Western standards.
- DoctorOetker 7mo agoBut what if the Mahsa Amini's case is not just a sad death in the hands of the regime, but also a violation of a treaty which Iran has signed?
- donkeybeer 7mo agoIf it is the ICCPR, then it appears Israel is also a signer and as I said Israel is equally prone to violations of human rights on and off of its territory. So again I do not see what was the point of specifically calling out Iran for it.
- DoctorOetker 7mo agoI am referring to a different treaty, which you would realize if you took over from beedeebeedee to look up the video of Mahsa Amini's death and analyzed it critically.
- donkeybeer 7mo agoAll I can see is a video of a woman supposedly fainting and then this being declared her death. If you are trying to insinuate some absurd nonsense like this is evidence of chemical weapons, then be straight. I don't see anything about her cause of death other than speculating police brutality.
- DoctorOetker 7mo agochemical weapon is precisely what it is did you see the longer multi-segment video, or just the single scene where she collapses?
- donkeybeer 7mo agoYou tell me, you are saying something which literally no news website is saying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_schoolgirls_mass_poisoning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_schoolgirls_mass_poiso... This doesn't mention Mahsa and claims this was done without the state's knowledge by random actors. And that it's most probably some random household agent not nErVe gAs. Again, you tell me what is the significance of all this to the Iran-Israel war which Israel started not Iran. Both countries are shitholes, I don't have any particular love for either.
- donkeybeer 7mo agoSince we are doing wild theories, let us add some more of our own. Mossad and its private arms are doing covert operations to corrupt European elections, oh wait, they are already doing so. Israel is spraying chemical weapons on neighboring countries crops, oh wait they are already doing so. Israel has 400 nuclear warheads, oh wait they already do. Strange, I didn't seem to need to go to even speculations and unverified theories to get to these. I wonder how far we can get the tally if go into speculations.