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Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you

Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

bertylicious 7mo ago
What are the military objectives?
- Qem 7mo ago
  Prop up the friendly apartheid regime.
user3939382 7mo ago
Yes. Evil military planners used AI to generate a list of thousands of kill sites and then engaged them without verification. They attacked a public park by accident because it has the name “police” in it. Recklessly slaughtering children is “grown up” now?
- Qem 7mo ago
  Another school was attacked[1] because it had "Shahed" in the name, like the drones. This is the First Slop War: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in-tehran-hit-irans-foreign-ministry-says https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in...
stephenr 7mo ago
> In reality someone made a mistake. It's never just one mistake. It's usually a chain of mistakes and bad decisions that make the final mistake possible. I'd estimate that there were likely 77,168,458 mistakes/bad decisions made by individuals before this mistake could happen.
lukan 7mo ago
Yes, mistakes can happen. But when you use autonomous targeting systems (with "human oversight" in theory) and tell your soldiers: "no stupid rules of engagement,” “no politically correct wars,” and “no nation-building quagmire.” (Hegseth) And the top commander says that he would intentionally kill the families of terrorists if voted into power: https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-ter... Then at some point I do not believe the term "mistake" is appropriate here.
- zimpenfish 7mo ago
  "Maximum lethality, not tepid legality"
galactus 7mo ago
I think that if you start an unjustified war of agression against a country and you kill 150 children, you should be held responsible
- trimethylpurine 7mo ago
  What if it happens as a result of trying to hold someone worse responsible?
  - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
    > someone worse You do not get to decide that. If we allow everyone to invade other countries and murder leaders because they deem those people worse than themselves, the world will be engaged in endless war. Or do you think perhaps deciding who to invade and kill is a special privilege reserved only for your country, which should be emperor of the world?
    - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
      If a guy pays soldiers to sneak into another country, kidnap rape and murder children, and continues similar behavior for 4 decades I can decide he's worse than Trump. I do get to decide that. Some things are worse than others. The preceding comment was about holding someone responsible. It appears you might have misunderstood that mine points out that this is exactly how the school was hit.
    - mhb 7mo ago
      With this reasoning, how do you make any decisions in your everyday life? Does everything look like a morally relativistic gray to you?
      - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
        ??? Do most of your everyday life decisions involve starting wars or killing people? That's concerning. Are you a high-ranking officer in the US military? As it happens, I'm not, and my decisions do not typically have life-or-death consequences. I also don't even know what you're getting at. There was nothing "relativistic" or "morally grey" about my argument. My point is that in order for any kind of peace to exist, each country must be able to accept that there will be other people in the world who are morally repugnant to them. Because there will always be leaders who consider each other repugnant, so if you endorse starting wars over that, you're committing to a world where everyone is starting wars all the time as the international norm.
skeeter2020 7mo ago
>> In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives. You should really unpack these statements, especially if you're trying to have a "grown up conversation". You're saying that no price is too high for achieving military objectives, even those that are very unclear and unilaterally defined without justification by a easily distracted narcissist with obvious goals of distracting from his domestic problems.
- Pay08 7mo ago
  He isn't saying that at all, though. He is saying that by the nature of war, innocent people will die. Everyone knows this, which is why international law is based on proportionality, not on whether or not a single civilian was harmed.
  - tremon 7mo ago
    So you're saying that killing 150 school girls is a proportionate response to what, exactly? The children would have been safe if their parents would have preemptively sent them away to Epstein's Kid Rock?
applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
Destroying a school is not an "oopsie". It should literally not be possible for it to happen in any organization that values human life at all. This was a precision strike with three missiles hitting the same target, they should have been goddamn sure they knew where the millions of dollars in ordnance they were launching for the purpose of ending human life were headed. Of course, the US military places zero value on not murdering civilians, which it has shown time and time again throughout its history, so this is the obvious result: massacre by intentional negligence. It's absolutely fucking insane to downplay it like these things just happen and are unavoidable. What is wrong with you? Maybe you don't understand these are not just numbers on a screen? How many children do you know in your life? Is it even close to 150? Can you imagine every single child you know being killed and shrugging that off, insulting people who bring it up as being "sensationalist" and "polluting the conversation"?
- trimethylpurine 7mo ago
  I notice you're not critical of Iran's military intentionally firing on civilians. Why?
  - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
    Because that was not the subject of the conversation. Iran's military killing civilians is bad, but that does not somehow justify also killing their civilians. WTF even is your logic?
    - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
      It certainly doesn't justify killing civilians.
    - mhb 7mo ago
      The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. These dots don't seem hard to connect.
ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago
I think the military planners sat in the Pentagon and thought "Hey if we hit this school and kill all these children, that will achieve us X. Shall we do it?" And then they decided to do it. Yes, that's what I think.
- Pay08 7mo ago
  Surely nothing to do with the missile launcher next to it, right?
  - ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago
    So you do conceed that someone at the pentagon intentionally decided "we'll kill al these children but that's worth it in order to achieve X". You've just made my point for me.
tmountain 7mo ago
Grow up conversations aren’t possible when the clowns are running the circus.
enlightenedfool 7mo ago
Good try. When you are complicit in genocide in Gaza, destroy multiple countries on pretext of democracy and human rights, start wars with blatant lies, the "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" is actually being kind.
nutjob2 7mo ago
Sometimes a mistake is negligence. If you're going to use lethal force it's a good idea to check your facts first. It's been a school for years, how was that missed? None of that happened because the US was unprepared for this war. It was Bibi's idea and Trump is weak and incompetent so he just went along with it, ironically because he thought it would avoid making him look weak and incompetent.
- adwn 7mo ago
  > ironically because he thought it would avoid making him look weak and incompetent Trump is what a weak man imagines a strong man to be like. Just look at his official portrait [1], trying to look tough and dangerous. Compare that to Dwight D. Eisenhower's portrait [2], a man who commanded entire armies in the largest war in human history. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#/media/File:Official_Presidential_Portrait_of_President_Donald_J._Trump_(2025).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#/media/File:Offic... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower#/media/File:Dwight_D._Eisenhower,_official_photo_portrait,_May_29,_1959_(cropped)(3).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower#/media/Fi...
watwut 7mo ago
Have you heard Hegseth speeches lately? Or Trumps? Like, yes, evil military planners did sat down and said "rules of engagement are woke, the working groups handling civilian safety are waste of money, be maximum lethal". Also, they had no stable military objectives except "make my insecure masculinity feel manly".
Forgeties79 7mo ago
Would you be so calm if someone made a mistake with your kid’s school? I have heard more than one Trump-defender say “well they would have grown up to attack us.”
kakacik 7mo ago
Then somebody should be punished so severely that incidence would go down dramatically. I dont mean 2 weeks administrative leave (or medal and promotion), I mean lives ruined, names tarnished, and/or people executed/jailed for 20 lives for mass (in)voluntary manslaughter. In reality, in same vein quite a few US laws are set. If you are not US passport holder you are subhuman. Less rights, less care, more disposable, just a garbage to step on. We saw it enough in past 80 years to see a clear pattern everywhere US went and (mostly) failed. For those slow in back rows - this is how you get almost endless stream of new fanatical recruits to merry groups like isis or al-queda. Dumb, supremely dumb. Yeah, 'a mistake, it can happen'. Fuck that american self-entitled rotten racist mentality. Then you wonder why whole world hates you now and what you stand for and represent. What a success story for america in past year.
mikkupikku 7mo ago
Possibly so, yes, that may have happened. The strike may have been calculated to inflame the Iranian public and lock them into a prolonged conflict, great for military contractors and their shareholders.
wsc981 7mo ago
Seems in Libanon the IDF is currently targeting hospitals and first responders [0]. Sometimes people are just evil. Regarding the USA-Iran war, the president of the USA has threatened to destroy essential infrastructure (e.g. electricity) if Iran doesn't surrender in 48 hours. Which, from my understanding, is a war crime. I think Trump is perfectly ok with bombing schools and hospitals. --- [0]: https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/2035545687006298392?s=20 https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/2035545687006298392?s=20
abenga 7mo ago
Is the fact that is a mistake a comfort to the kids' parents, siblings, or friends? Are they somehow less dead?
lonelyasacloud 7mo ago
> In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives. There has been little planning and there are no sane military objectives beyond blow stuff up. How can there be when the objectives of the overall war change depend on what side of the bed Bone Spurs got out.
vasac 7mo ago
> Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon... Why shouldn’t he believe it? You people believe the same kind of crap when you're told that X (insert the current boogeyman de jour) hates Murica and wants to kill you all.
pepperoni_pizza 7mo ago
> Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Absolutely. Russia does it all the time, IDF does it all the time, why would the Pentagon be any different?
mlsu 7mo ago
I simply had a few beers before getting behind the wheel. Honestly, judge, can we admit: nobody wants to run over anyone with their car. Cmon, do you really think I was twirling my moustache, thinking about how I would love to run those people over? Of course not! No, I am a benevolent fun loving guy. And I was simply having a few beers! How else is a good guy like me supposed to get home?

bertylicious 7mo ago

What are the military objectives?

Qem 7mo ago
Prop up the friendly apartheid regime.

user3939382 7mo ago

Yes. Evil military planners used AI to generate a list of thousands of kill sites and then engaged them without verification. They attacked a public park by accident because it has the name “police” in it. Recklessly slaughtering children is “grown up” now?

Qem 7mo ago
Another school was attacked[1] because it had "Shahed" in the name, like the drones. This is the First Slop War: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in-tehran-hit-irans-foreign-ministry-says https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/6/elementary-school-in...

stephenr 7mo ago

> In reality someone made a mistake. It's never just one mistake. It's usually a chain of mistakes and bad decisions that make the final mistake possible. I'd estimate that there were likely 77,168,458 mistakes/bad decisions made by individuals before this mistake could happen.

lukan 7mo ago

Yes, mistakes can happen. But when you use autonomous targeting systems (with "human oversight" in theory) and tell your soldiers: "no stupid rules of engagement,” “no politically correct wars,” and “no nation-building quagmire.” (Hegseth) And the top commander says that he would intentionally kill the families of terrorists if voted into power: https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-ter... Then at some point I do not believe the term "mistake" is appropriate here.

zimpenfish 7mo ago
"Maximum lethality, not tepid legality"

galactus 7mo ago

I think that if you start an unjustified war of agression against a country and you kill 150 children, you should be held responsible

trimethylpurine 7mo ago
What if it happens as a result of trying to hold someone worse responsible?
- applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
  > someone worse You do not get to decide that. If we allow everyone to invade other countries and murder leaders because they deem those people worse than themselves, the world will be engaged in endless war. Or do you think perhaps deciding who to invade and kill is a special privilege reserved only for your country, which should be emperor of the world?
  - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
    If a guy pays soldiers to sneak into another country, kidnap rape and murder children, and continues similar behavior for 4 decades I can decide he's worse than Trump. I do get to decide that. Some things are worse than others. The preceding comment was about holding someone responsible. It appears you might have misunderstood that mine points out that this is exactly how the school was hit.
  - mhb 7mo ago
    With this reasoning, how do you make any decisions in your everyday life? Does everything look like a morally relativistic gray to you?
    - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
      ??? Do most of your everyday life decisions involve starting wars or killing people? That's concerning. Are you a high-ranking officer in the US military? As it happens, I'm not, and my decisions do not typically have life-or-death consequences. I also don't even know what you're getting at. There was nothing "relativistic" or "morally grey" about my argument. My point is that in order for any kind of peace to exist, each country must be able to accept that there will be other people in the world who are morally repugnant to them. Because there will always be leaders who consider each other repugnant, so if you endorse starting wars over that, you're committing to a world where everyone is starting wars all the time as the international norm.

skeeter2020 7mo ago

>> In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives. You should really unpack these statements, especially if you're trying to have a "grown up conversation". You're saying that no price is too high for achieving military objectives, even those that are very unclear and unilaterally defined without justification by a easily distracted narcissist with obvious goals of distracting from his domestic problems.

Pay08 7mo ago
He isn't saying that at all, though. He is saying that by the nature of war, innocent people will die. Everyone knows this, which is why international law is based on proportionality, not on whether or not a single civilian was harmed.
- tremon 7mo ago
  So you're saying that killing 150 school girls is a proportionate response to what, exactly? The children would have been safe if their parents would have preemptively sent them away to Epstein's Kid Rock?

applfanboysbgon 7mo ago

Destroying a school is not an "oopsie". It should literally not be possible for it to happen in any organization that values human life at all. This was a precision strike with three missiles hitting the same target, they should have been goddamn sure they knew where the millions of dollars in ordnance they were launching for the purpose of ending human life were headed. Of course, the US military places zero value on not murdering civilians, which it has shown time and time again throughout its history, so this is the obvious result: massacre by intentional negligence. It's absolutely fucking insane to downplay it like these things just happen and are unavoidable. What is wrong with you? Maybe you don't understand these are not just numbers on a screen? How many children do you know in your life? Is it even close to 150? Can you imagine every single child you know being killed and shrugging that off, insulting people who bring it up as being "sensationalist" and "polluting the conversation"?

trimethylpurine 7mo ago
I notice you're not critical of Iran's military intentionally firing on civilians. Why?
- applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
  Because that was not the subject of the conversation. Iran's military killing civilians is bad, but that does not somehow justify also killing their civilians. WTF even is your logic?
  - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
    It certainly doesn't justify killing civilians.
  - mhb 7mo ago
    The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. These dots don't seem hard to connect.

ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago

I think the military planners sat in the Pentagon and thought "Hey if we hit this school and kill all these children, that will achieve us X. Shall we do it?" And then they decided to do it. Yes, that's what I think.

Pay08 7mo ago
Surely nothing to do with the missile launcher next to it, right?
- ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago
  So you do conceed that someone at the pentagon intentionally decided "we'll kill al these children but that's worth it in order to achieve X". You've just made my point for me.

tmountain 7mo ago

Grow up conversations aren’t possible when the clowns are running the circus.

enlightenedfool 7mo ago

Good try. When you are complicit in genocide in Gaza, destroy multiple countries on pretext of democracy and human rights, start wars with blatant lies, the "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" is actually being kind.

nutjob2 7mo ago

Sometimes a mistake is negligence. If you're going to use lethal force it's a good idea to check your facts first. It's been a school for years, how was that missed? None of that happened because the US was unprepared for this war. It was Bibi's idea and Trump is weak and incompetent so he just went along with it, ironically because he thought it would avoid making him look weak and incompetent.

adwn 7mo ago
> ironically because he thought it would avoid making him look weak and incompetent Trump is what a weak man imagines a strong man to be like. Just look at his official portrait [1], trying to look tough and dangerous. Compare that to Dwight D. Eisenhower's portrait [2], a man who commanded entire armies in the largest war in human history. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#/media/File:Official_Presidential_Portrait_of_President_Donald_J._Trump_(2025).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#/media/File:Offic... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower#/media/File:Dwight_D._Eisenhower,_official_photo_portrait,_May_29,_1959_(cropped)(3).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower#/media/Fi...

watwut 7mo ago

Have you heard Hegseth speeches lately? Or Trumps? Like, yes, evil military planners did sat down and said "rules of engagement are woke, the working groups handling civilian safety are waste of money, be maximum lethal". Also, they had no stable military objectives except "make my insecure masculinity feel manly".

Forgeties79 7mo ago

Would you be so calm if someone made a mistake with your kid’s school? I have heard more than one Trump-defender say “well they would have grown up to attack us.”

kakacik 7mo ago

Then somebody should be punished so severely that incidence would go down dramatically. I dont mean 2 weeks administrative leave (or medal and promotion), I mean lives ruined, names tarnished, and/or people executed/jailed for 20 lives for mass (in)voluntary manslaughter. In reality, in same vein quite a few US laws are set. If you are not US passport holder you are subhuman. Less rights, less care, more disposable, just a garbage to step on. We saw it enough in past 80 years to see a clear pattern everywhere US went and (mostly) failed. For those slow in back rows - this is how you get almost endless stream of new fanatical recruits to merry groups like isis or al-queda. Dumb, supremely dumb. Yeah, 'a mistake, it can happen'. Fuck that american self-entitled rotten racist mentality. Then you wonder why whole world hates you now and what you stand for and represent. What a success story for america in past year.

mikkupikku 7mo ago

Possibly so, yes, that may have happened. The strike may have been calculated to inflame the Iranian public and lock them into a prolonged conflict, great for military contractors and their shareholders.

wsc981 7mo ago

Seems in Libanon the IDF is currently targeting hospitals and first responders [0]. Sometimes people are just evil. Regarding the USA-Iran war, the president of the USA has threatened to destroy essential infrastructure (e.g. electricity) if Iran doesn't surrender in 48 hours. Which, from my understanding, is a war crime. I think Trump is perfectly ok with bombing schools and hospitals. --- [0]: https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/2035545687006298392?s=20 https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/2035545687006298392?s=20

abenga 7mo ago

Is the fact that is a mistake a comfort to the kids' parents, siblings, or friends? Are they somehow less dead?

lonelyasacloud 7mo ago

> In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives. There has been little planning and there are no sane military objectives beyond blow stuff up. How can there be when the objectives of the overall war change depend on what side of the bed Bone Spurs got out.

vasac 7mo ago

> Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon... Why shouldn’t he believe it? You people believe the same kind of crap when you're told that X (insert the current boogeyman de jour) hates Murica and wants to kill you all.

pepperoni_pizza 7mo ago

> Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Absolutely. Russia does it all the time, IDF does it all the time, why would the Pentagon be any different?

mlsu 7mo ago

I simply had a few beers before getting behind the wheel. Honestly, judge, can we admit: nobody wants to run over anyone with their car. Cmon, do you really think I was twirling my moustache, thinking about how I would love to run those people over? Of course not! No, I am a benevolent fun loving guy. And I was simply having a few beers! How else is a good guy like me supposed to get home?