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It's how Europe falls behind, you mean. Why do they always get left out of the comparisons? Because they're so far behind anything it would be an insult to inc

It's how Europe falls behind, you mean. Why do they always get left out of the comparisons? Because they're so far behind anything it would be an insult to include them?

Markoff 7mo ago
you can buy Chinese phones/cars in EU, so we don't fall behind though in 3.5 months they are gonna ban EU consumers from buying cheap things directly from AliExpress and groom July 1st you will have to pay 3EUR for each ordered item, including that 1EUR screen protector, because it's much better when you can feed some useless middleman than saving money, thanks EU!
- temp8830 7mo ago
  > you can buy Chinese phones/cars in EU, so we don't fall behind With that logic, every programmer on this site should spend as much time as possible on Facebook. This will make their salary equal to that of a Meta employee! Consuming something is not the same as being able to produce it.
- drstewart 7mo ago
  DeepSeek is available in the US, so why did anyone imply the US will fall behind in AI tech?
giwook 7mo ago
I think this is probably because Europe is considered part of "the West".
orwin 7mo ago
Europe is third since the 2000s. The pushed the Euro to try to limit it (and from the mouth of someone who was present when they pushed, it was also caused by the black Wednesday of 92, the attacks on currencies increased, and the cost to rebuff them too). And yes, basically, no one should include europe in the comparison until US oil fields are depleted, and even then at best it would be a race for the second place. You can't compete without gas and oil or a huge manufacturing lead, and europe don't have any, and only have specific subset of manufacturing (basically sensors, electronics, avionics, optics, and handmade clothing) that isn't workforce-intensive, nor resource-intensive.
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phatfish 7mo ago
Maybe, but BMW are at least trying. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/electric-3-series-revealed-bmw-i3-brings-559-miles-range https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/electric-3-... At least the Chinese tech will be available to European consumers, nothing says insecure like pretending a competitor doesn't exist.
- nxm 7mo ago
  At the expense of European companies...good luck.

It's how Europe falls behind, you mean. Why do they always get left out of the comparisons? Because they're so far behind anything it would be an insult to include them?

Markoff 7mo ago

you can buy Chinese phones/cars in EU, so we don't fall behind though in 3.5 months they are gonna ban EU consumers from buying cheap things directly from AliExpress and groom July 1st you will have to pay 3EUR for each ordered item, including that 1EUR screen protector, because it's much better when you can feed some useless middleman than saving money, thanks EU!

temp8830 7mo ago
> you can buy Chinese phones/cars in EU, so we don't fall behind With that logic, every programmer on this site should spend as much time as possible on Facebook. This will make their salary equal to that of a Meta employee! Consuming something is not the same as being able to produce it.
drstewart 7mo ago
DeepSeek is available in the US, so why did anyone imply the US will fall behind in AI tech?

giwook 7mo ago

I think this is probably because Europe is considered part of "the West".

orwin 7mo ago

Europe is third since the 2000s. The pushed the Euro to try to limit it (and from the mouth of someone who was present when they pushed, it was also caused by the black Wednesday of 92, the attacks on currencies increased, and the cost to rebuff them too). And yes, basically, no one should include europe in the comparison until US oil fields are depleted, and even then at best it would be a race for the second place. You can't compete without gas and oil or a huge manufacturing lead, and europe don't have any, and only have specific subset of manufacturing (basically sensors, electronics, avionics, optics, and handmade clothing) that isn't workforce-intensive, nor resource-intensive.

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phatfish 7mo ago

Maybe, but BMW are at least trying. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/electric-3-series-revealed-bmw-i3-brings-559-miles-range https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/electric-3-... At least the Chinese tech will be available to European consumers, nothing says insecure like pretending a competitor doesn't exist.

nxm 7mo ago
At the expense of European companies...good luck.