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Betting against Intel in the long term doesn't seem to be a good idea. That said, I'm sure Apple's got their eye on the world's first 24-hour laptop, and I'm su
by Osmium 14y ago
Betting against Intel in the long term doesn't seem to be a good idea. That said, I'm sure Apple's got their eye on the world's first 24-hour laptop, and I'm sure ARM could help them get there.
- seanmcdirmid 14y agoIntel hasn't been doing to hot lately; wall street is definitely betting against them now, and I think they are taking a long term outlook because Intel still has good profits. What makes you think Intel will eventually stop the slide and get its mojo back?
- Osmium 14y agoJust sheer force of will. Intel has the engineering talent, the experience, the motivation and the capital. If they can't do it, who can? Apple has a lot to prove here, and so far all they've achieved is purchasing a few smaller chip design firms and managing to adapt existing ARM cores for their own SoCs. They have a long way to go to be able to be competitive in this area. The one thing going for them is that they have the capital to burn, and I can't think of a better way to use it.
- chucknelson 14y agoNote that as of the A6/X, they have now designed their own ARM instruction set cores (as opposed to using ARM-designed cores).
- Osmium 14y agoAh, I wasn't aware of this, thanks. I thought they were still packaging ARM-designed cores. For anyone else who'd missed it, here's a good article on it on Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/5 http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/5
- tedunangst 14y agoIntel was washed up when the Athlon came out and was faster. Intel was washed up when the pentium 4 was too hot. Point being, intel has done pretty well for a company rendered obsolete a decade and a half ago.
- BruceIV 14y agoAgreed. They've also got a big process-node lead on everyone else in the market; I find it hard to believe they can't leverage that to optimize whatever processor design parameters they need to.
- Osmium 14y agoThe process node lead won't last forever though. We're going to reach the end of silicon soon, by the mid-2020s at least. Whatever replaces it isn't necessarily going to be from Intel, because they don't have expertise in much besides silicon. I wouldn't be surprised if it's another player, like IBM, that finally cracks it.
- BruceIV 14y agoFair enough. But that gives Intel at least another decade at the top. A lot can happen in that time.
- runako 14y agoThis statement holds exactly on desktops & laptops, but not at all on mobile phones, tablets, palmtops, etc.
- tedunangst 14y agoWhy? Because intel can't make low power chips? http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/4/3447984/motorola-razr-i-review-intel-smartphone http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/4/3447984/motorola-razr-i-re... Money quote: "Both have strong battery life compared to many Android devices, but from our tests and experience, it’s clear that Intel’s chip is far more frugal with power than the dual-core Snapdragon S4."
- runako 14y agoNo, because Intel isn't shipping in the high-volume mobile platforms currently in major use [1]. Because as of October 2012, publications are talking about Intel's "first real smartphone". I'm not talking about engineering capability, but rather shipped units. [1] Yes, I know you use one of the few Intel mobile phones in use. But your phone's model doesn't rank on Google Analytics for any major site. That's what I mean by "in major use".
- aes256 14y agoIs there really a need for a 24 hour laptop? A laptop that doesn't need charging throughout the day, sure, but I don't think charging a laptop overnight is a significant inconvenience for most people?
- Turing_Machine 14y agoIt depends on how much/far you travel. Sometimes you luck out and find a free outlet at an airport, but not always.